OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

[ramAnag]

Roger! Para' 5...I'm inclined to think in pictures...don't do that again...ever!!!!

More seriously, and as part of my recovery...you do seem to have done a bit of an about turn for a 'Remainer'...interesting.

Totally with you on Wonga but there must be simpler ways to stop that lot. Simple legislation I'd have thought.

Bit harsh on the holidaymakers...people have worked all year for their 'reward'. Doesn't impact on me and imo holidays have never been as good as I no longer have to go away at school holiday time, so no personal interest, but for those that do and had already committed it's just another worry and disappointment.

[ramAnag]

P.S. Don't send them to the Peak District...the annual six week moving and parking crisis has already begun up here. I recommend Surrey.

[roger_ramjet]

My about face, as you put it, stems from two reasons:

(a) I always had mixed emotions as regards the vote...I abhor the idea of a federal Europe but had concerns as to the economic impact. I was concerned that many out voters would be doing so for the wrong reasons ie the immigration issue; but

(b) whats done is done, the people have spoken. I not going to be King Cnut and try to stop the tide rising. Its now a matter of making the best of the hand weve been dealt.

Besides how could we argue on things if we came from the same standpoint (trust the past tense of that verb goes not cause coronary isdues).

Lets press on to 550 and declare just after tea...

[AngryRam]

Interestingly, from a balance of payments perspective, a decline in imports is no bad thing for the economy either. A weak pound thus stimulates export trade and makes our domestic sales more competetive.

To get on to one of my bug bears - food miles. If the weak pound means we import less new zealand lamb or apples and thus encourage our own producers then its a win:win. Same for asparagus from peru, potatoes from cyprus or egypt strawberries from california, beef from ireland etc etc. We can be self sufficient in all these things if we put our mind to it. So bring on the weak currency for a while to stimulate our economy both ways.

If capital goods cost industry more we may spike domestic inflation up a little longer term and so pressurise interest rates but that too may have its advantages.

Also if imported consumer electronics get more expensive it may dissuade the "new telly every year" individuals and so deprive Wonga of new business. Anything that can drag down that evil empire has to be good.

Now if only I could figure out how a weak pound could destroy "Just Eat" I would be so ecstatic I'd maybe cum.

And for those poor sorry individuals complaining about their holidays costing maybe 100 quid more....stay in Uk, go to the Peak District and enjoy the 2 days of English summer ����. Much more fun than spending two days on the M20 queuing like a lemming waiting for his turn on the cliffs edge

I see we now have a new word in circulation.. The 'staycation'... FFS..



Double angry ...

[AngryRam]

P.S. Don't send them to the Peak District...the annual six week moving and parking crisis has already begun up here. I recommend Surrey.

Plenty of parking at Chateau Angry.. I've had the staff clear one of the lower fields.
Surrey is always open for business..

[ramAnag]

I said 'about turn'...'about face' is a bit too unpleasantly 'Goveish'...wouldn't ever accuse you of that.

'The people' haven't really spoken have they?

Aim for 600 for me and have the last hour at them. Meant to be much more overcast for Jimmy in his home conditions tomorrow.

[swaledale]

Shssss.. Don't tell Swaley.

Don't tell him what? That Cameroon and the remain lot were pathetic, resorting to overhyped and unrealistic portents of doom!! I already know that and have said so many times on this thread!! Though Tricky obviously didn't read it as he referred to my friend cameroon over and over again!

Aye the turbulence in the economy may not be all bad, unfortunately the ones that will suffer will be a large proportion of those who voted for Brexit, imagine voting and winning and thinking that all what you wished for would come true, only to find nothing has changed, there are still thousands of immigrants in your town and £360 million hasn't been spent on the NHS...nightmare!!!

Anyway 89 to go, though I've heard this new Forum does not stop at 500!!

[roger_ramjet]

We did beat Walsall though, not that it matters

[ramAnag]

Doesn't really matter Rog, but more encouraging than losing to Grimsby which is what I recall we'd just done this time last year.

Back OT...just seen Paddy Ashdown on Andrew Marr talking about a new political movement...MoreUnited.uk...not keen on the name - obviously - but it seems worth looking into. Made more sense than my bumbling MP - McLoughlin - anyway.

[roger_ramjet]

I thought Ashdown was dead! Maybe I am confusing him with another pointless liberal MP of the era.

[roger_ramjet]

Looks pie in the sky - trendy crowd funding based party? I cant see the great British public putting their hands in their pockets to pay for it. Especially a centrist party - the extremes tend to attract the lion's share of the money - which is why the Liberals were in the doldrums for so long.

[ramAnag]

Merkel is pretty centrist and she hasn't done so badly. Blair, although discredited over Iraq, achieved quite a lot too. The extremes might attract money and that certainly helps, but it hasn't done UKIP or the BNP much good and equally there isn't vast support for the British Communist Party (if it still exists).
The two party system is, imo, what did for the Liberals but with Labour so totally split and the Tories only likely to hold things together during 'Maggie May's' honeymoon period, before they all start stabbing each other in the back again over the eventual terms of something only vaguely resembling 'Brexit', I can see a scenario developing which will see a new era of politics ushered in.
With all the current chaos in the World these are dangerous times and I fear we could see an upsurge in extremist politics. On the other hand it might be the time for the emergence of a centrist, common sense, compassionate party (CCCP).

[swaledale]

Merkel is pretty centrist and she hasn't done so badly. Blair, although discredited over Iraq, achieved quite a lot too. The extremes might attract money and that certainly helps, but it hasn't done UKIP or the BNP much good and equally there isn't vast support for the British Communist Party (if it still exists).
The two party system is, imo, what did for the Liberals but with Labour so totally split and the Tories only likely to hold things together during 'Maggie May's' honeymoon period, before they all start stabbing each other in the back again over the eventual terms of something only vaguely resembling 'Brexit', I can see a scenario developing which will see a new era of politics ushered in.
With all the current chaos in the World these are dangerous times and I fear we could see an upsurge in extremist politics. On the other hand it might be the time for the emergence of a centrist, common sense, compassionate party (CCCP).

Extremist parties wont do well over here, sure UKIP got a fair few votes, but surel;y that was more to dow ith people feeling put up on rather than any support for their overall views? The Lib Dems ****ed it up by going into coalition with the Toires then trading no increase in tuition fees for a rfeendum on alternative voting which the Tories outsmarted them on - they willbe back when they can sort themselves out.

I can forsee the right of the labour party splitting off and joining up with like minded liberals

[swaledale]

Doesn't really matter Rog, but more encouraging than losing to Grimsby which is what I recall we'd just done this time last year.

Back OT...just seen Paddy Ashdown on Andrew Marr talking about a new political movement...MoreUnited.uk...not keen on the name - obviously - but it seems worth looking into. Made more sense than my bumbling MP - McLoughlin - anyway.

Ah good old Patrick, mind you havent had a decent MP since they got rid of Matthew Paris, who for a Tory talked a modicum of common sense!

[AngryRam]

I'm in Europe at the moment.. They still love us..
Official..