OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

[ramAnag]

Ah...knew about the food, not the rest.
Oh well, off to the iPro now...and so it begins.

[macstheman]

Not impressed by todays performance, this threads far more entertaining!!

[ramAnag]

Not impressed by todays performance, this threads far more entertaining!!

It was only meant to get us through July but, sadly, I think you're right.

[swaledale]

News today of massive hike in people seeking Irish passports in the wake of the Brexit vote: up 73%. So Messrs Swale and Mangara, here's your way out (or rather in). Surely everyone has a bit of historic Irish in them?

It does raise an interesting question though concerning the historic concessionary, pre EU, status of the Irish working in UK. Will this be reinstated or will the Irish have to join the queue at the visa office along with the Bulgarians, Romanians and Poles??

Well according to May the agreement re ireland will not change - even the IRA bombing campaign didn't affect that! As for an irish passport, it might be useful for those who are eligible but it wont change what may happen to the Uk economically and on a personal note Other than travel with the EU, it does not help exiting or entering the UK to or from the EU now much - so many hours of life I will never get back, so no Rog it aint the answer!

[Andy_Faber]

Interesting that this mornings news included a report that consumer spending has actually gone UP since the Brexit decision, with some other mitigating factors I'll agree, and it reinforces my belief that Politicians and big business have just got the sulks about Brexit and are making their prediction of doom into a self-fulfilling prophecy - meanwhile, those who voted for it are just getting on with their lives, and looking forward to buying some bent bananas

[ramAnag]

Bent bananas aside AF, it seems like we're intent on upsetting the Chinese too at the moment. Europe...China...who's next for little Britain to piss off? Isolationism anyone?

[Andy_Faber]

Knowing intimately the way they do business I could live with that one!

[roger_ramjet]

Interesting that this mornings news included a report that consumer spending has actually gone UP since the Brexit decision, with some other mitigating factors I'll agree, and it reinforces my belief that Politicians and big business have just got the sulks about Brexit and are making their prediction of doom into a self-fulfilling prophecy - meanwhile, those who voted for it are just getting on with their lives, and looking forward to buying some bent bananas

Which seems an odd aberration considering the bank of england dropped interest rates on thursday for fear of recession and anticipating a fall in consumer spending. Scratches head pensively

[Andy_Faber]

Although I think his calm manner has helped to some extent and don't think he's one of the 'sulkers', Mark Carney has spent most of his time at BoE getting forecasts wrong. Maybe we should ask him for guidance on where Derby will finish the season

[ramAnag]

Knowing intimately the way they do business I could live with that one!

I'll bow to your greater knowledge on that one. My knowledge of Chinese business is absolutely zero although I thought, after our recent alienation of Europe, that the Chinese and Indian markets were meant to be quite crucial. As someone with little claim to any business acumen I just wonder if we can afford to make any more 'enemies'. We are, after all, just a rather self important small island nation on the (geographical and political) edge of Northern Europe.

[AdiSalisbury]

We are, after all, just a rather self important small island nation on the (geographical and political) edge of Northern Europe.

We always were... but, we now have control of our own comparative advantage, which is watered down as an EU member.

[swaledale]

We always were... but, we now have control of our own comparative advantage, which is watered down as an EU member.

Or we get ignored and they prefer to do business through a body that represents 27 potential markets, rather than one small country?

Not certain this "control" which people get so excited about is actually going to produce the benefits some think!

All economics is forecasting and betting on that forecast, its too early to say how things are going to but uncertainty means businesses and individuals are wary of investing so an economic decline is a self fulfilling prophesy in many ways.

[swaledale]

Knowing intimately the way they do business I could live with that one!

Whist I agree with the sentiment, its not been the Uk's Policy for the past few centuries and the reality is that principles cost money and jobs and not many n the population seem to think that's a price worth paying! Mind you perhaps Brexit is a sign of a change in public opinion? Though I'm not holding my breath on that one!

[AngryRam]

Or we get ignored and they prefer to do business through a body that represents 27 potential markets, rather than one small country?

Not certain this "control" which people get so excited about is actually going to produce the benefits some think!

All economics is forecasting and betting on that forecast, its too early to say how things are going to but uncertainty means businesses and individuals are wary of investing so an economic decline is a self fulfilling prophesy in many ways.

Or.... Deal with someone that can actually make a decision. There is life outside Europe and the world still revolves.. Britian still produces some good sellable quality stuff (not enough) but we still have some left.

Reading your posts I'm surprised that I am not more well off.. We've been in Europe a long time, I must be absolutely minted.
What have the Europeans ever done for us? I blame Monty Python.

[Andy_Faber]

Whist I agree with the sentiment, its not been the Uk's Policy for the past few centuries and the reality is that principles cost money and jobs and not many n the population seem to think that's a price worth paying! Mind you perhaps Brexit is a sign of a change in public opinion? Though I'm not holding my breath on that one!

I think Brexit was the previously silent majority finding their voice.