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  • Originally posted by DCFCArmy View Post
    Trump isn't as bad as CNN say he is.

    Clinton is the one who is the shady one, she's the one who has a temper, she hides it well though, she's threatened reporters and even said she'd beat one up if they carried on taking pictures, Trumps never resorted to that level of childish behaviour has he?

    Americans have had their guns since the beginning of their history, they've always had their constitutional rights and taking that away would be in breach of their human rights.
    Clinton may well be 'shady' but, unlike Trump, she's not delusional, hasn't been made bankrupt six times and doesn't claim tax avoidance to be an indicator of a 'brilliant' business brain.
    The fact that 'Americans have had guns since the beginning of their history' is no real argument is it? It's not the 'wild west' anymore. Sure it may be necessary for farmers and ranchers to keep firearms at home, the wildlife being potentially more menacing than our foxes and hedgehogs, but beyond that what's the justification?
    Interesting that as you approach the border with so called 'lawless' Mexico there are countless signs reminding US citizens that it is illegal to carry guns and ammo into Mexico. Doesn't reflect very favourably on the US, imo.

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    • Originally posted by ramAnag View Post
      Clinton may well be 'shady' but, unlike Trump, she's not delusional, hasn't been made bankrupt six times and doesn't claim tax avoidance to be an indicator of a 'brilliant' business brain.
      The fact that 'Americans have had guns since the beginning of their history' is no real argument is it? It's not the 'wild west' anymore. Sure it may be necessary for farmers and ranchers to keep firearms at home, the wildlife being potentially more menacing than our foxes and hedgehogs, but beyond that what's the justification?
      Interesting that as you approach the border with so called 'lawless' Mexico there are countless signs reminding US citizens that it is illegal to carry guns and ammo into Mexico. Doesn't reflect very favourably on the US, imo.
      Yet cops can still carry them? the army can still carry them, even though we're told there's no need for war anymore, if the public have to give them up shouldn't the police as well?

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      • deluded

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        • Is this Derby's way of fighting depression?

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          • No es***, it's called intelligent, adult debate while the football has gone quiet...or at least it was until DCFCArmy joined in and started writing nonsense.
            Wtf has the police and the army being armed got to do with whether ordinary US citizens should or should not have a constitutional right to arm themselves?

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            • how is romford es*** you must come from there it was voted as worst place in es*** to live

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              • Originally posted by ramAnag View Post
                No es***, it's called intelligent, adult debate while the football has gone quiet...or at least it was until DCFCArmy joined in and started writing nonsense.
                I've found this whole thread interesting, and just to contrast with other social media: I use facebook for business reasons and on my newsfeed there are currently two threads going mad - one started by a clearly pro-Tory person, praising everything said at the Tory conference,which has hundreds of people agreeing with his sentiment, and another started by a Tory-hater, with even more hundreds of agrees to his anti-Tory-conference stance. NO discussion, NO dissention, just, to quote my daughter, 'a lot of people just e-bumming each other'.

                I actually think Es*** is a bit jealous of the intelligent discussion roundabout.

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                • Originally posted by Andy_Faber View Post
                  ....I actually think Es*** is a bit jealous of the intelligent discussion roundabout....
                  I think you're being a little generous there - I suspect it's all just a bit too complicated for him.....

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                  • The police wouldn't need guns either if the public had there's took away?

                    The Armies should be discontinued, we can all get on without violence, if I have a dispute with someone I don't threaten to carpet bomb their house, and if I did I'd be arrested and sectioned under the mental health act, yet leaders can waltz around giving death threats out...

                    Aren't the "state" supposed to be upholding the peoples "laws" and "rights", not dishing out their own little laws and acts, law of the land??? yet we've seemed to have bowed to the state.

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                    • Originally posted by DCFCArmy View Post
                      The police wouldn't need guns either if the public had there's took away?

                      The Armies should be discontinued, we can all get on without violence, if I have a dispute with someone I don't threaten to carpet bomb their house, and if I did I'd be arrested and sectioned under the mental health act, yet leaders can waltz around giving death threats out...

                      Aren't the "state" supposed to be upholding the peoples "laws" and "rights", not dishing out their own little laws and acts, law of the land??? yet we've seemed to have bowed to the state.


                      Anyway...back in the real world. Agree with Andy, and his daughter, so much internet 'debate' does just come down to either 'pandering' (aka ebumming) or abuse and at least the majority of what has gone on here has involved relatively respectful genuine discussion.

                      Seems however that 'will he/won't he Farage' has some sorting to do, now that he's been reinstalled after his members and elected (sort of) representatives have started hospitalising each other. Is it something to do with being called 'Nigel'? UKIP appear to be running DCFC close in terms of the county's most difficult organisations to manage/lead.

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                      • no thats just down the road

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                        • Lol...what, in the Isle of Wight? Fair point though southern. So the most complex organisations to run in the UK competition goes something like, in no particular order, Forest, Us, UKIP, Labour Party, Merrill Academy...any others?

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                          • We could offer UKIP Mel and they give us Nigel Farage, that man has single handely kept UKIP afloat and would be ideal for us, pity he's not a football man.

                            Nigel Pearson would get on with Nigel Farage as well

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                            • I grew up in Romford and had to move away because of spiralling house prices, had to move just outside of the M25 just to get on the ladder,
                              as for Romford being the worst place to live is probably right, but for some strange reason I miss it, my family ' the Adam's Family' still live there
                              Andy Faber, not my board but can't say much about the topics you guys post but topics like this depress me and I avoid them like the plague, bit like entering a grass growing contest with John Major
                              this board should merge with the old ones on the Nott's County board

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                              • Can never understand anyone who can be bothered to go to the trouble of telling everyone how they're not interested in something.
                                If it interests you...post. If it doesn't, or worse still, it 'depresses' you...ignore it.
                                Been a thread of sufficient interest to generate 1200 posts anyway es***.

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