OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

[AdiSalisbury]

Reports are suggesting that the petition has a high number of signatures, from people living outside the UK, so don't get too excited by the numbers.

[ramAnag]

Reports are suggesting that the petition has a high number of signatures, from people living outside the UK, so don't get too excited by the numbers.

I signed from abroad...but you have to have a verifiable UK address before your ‘signature’ is accepted, Adi.
Context is everything...and this is a huge petition.

No MA...’ah’ as in rear end...and to say ‘if you don’t like what they voted for...tough sh1t’ seems a tad over simplified by your standards.
Implementation of Democracy surely involves people voting on the basis of truth and the vote reflecting a majority of the electorate. Obviously in a General Election when there are a number of choices then it gets more complex but in the binary choice offered by the Brexit Referendum both truth and majority of the electorate were clearly missing.

[MadAmster]

No MA...’ah’ as in rear end...and to say ‘if you don’t like what they voted for...tough sh1t’ seems a tad over simplified by your standards.

AhSoul it is then

Those who decided not to vote. IMO it is TS for them. They have, IMO, no right to complain. Those who voted Remain, IMO, do have a right to vent their frustration at the current state of affairs.

[Andy_Faber]

Actually Will Self said nothing of the sort,!

Swale you should know that, after calling you out many times for the unsubstantiated rubbish you write, I would have my ducks in a row re provenance. Check YouTube, type in will self brexit and open the politics live debate from 3rd March. He says it after 30 seconds. AND he says what you said he said, just to reinforce his bigotry.

[AdiSalisbury]

I signed from abroad...but you have to have a verifiable UK address before your ‘signature’ is accepted, Adi.
Context is everything...and this is a huge petition.

Yes, I'm sure you provided your passport photo too.

[mistaram]

Shouldn't that read 33 million who may vote? Many of them don't, be it local, national or European elections. If you choose not to vote you choose to accept what the majority of those who did bother to turn out voted for. If you don't like what they voted for, tough 5h1t. Its called democracy

rA, your comment about MF, is that ah as in soul?

MA what I'm trying to say is if 33,551,983 voted in the referendum Then until theve signed the online partitions then we have not got a clue how any second referendum will go

[ramAnag]

Yes, I'm sure you provided your passport photo too.

Oh here we go...it’s all a conspiracy...they’re all foreigners petitioning, it’s all a fix. C’mon Adi, you’re better than that and the biggest ‘fix/con’ was the Referendum itself.
Before it would let me sign from abroad I had to provide a valid email address and my UK postcode...that’s just fact, as is the idea that this country has been held hostage to infighting by the various factions of the Tory party for three years now. That’s how this fiasco started and it’s still going on.
An unhealthy alliance between infighting for control of the Tory party and bigoted populism is what this has all become about.

Sorry MA...I’d just woken up...as in ‘soul’ indeed!

[AdiSalisbury]

No, its not a fix, but its unreliable, easily cheated by any capable 8 year old, and playground antics at best.

[Andy_Faber]

Anyway over 2 million and counting, whereas a leave with no deal petition hasn't passed 400,000 yet - the play has a long way to run and who knows commonsense might save the day!

You might find that such votes are skewed by the fact that more remainers (and I include myself in this) have time to fanny about on computers than Leavers, who for the most part are out there actually getting on with something useful

[Manofpride]

I think it all boils down to the majority of people who voted on Brexit wanted out, the majority of politicians wanted to remain. Toys have been thrown out of the pram because they haven't got what they wanted so have tried every trick in the book to reverse it!
Just give the people what they voted for, it's so simple.

[ramAnag]

You might find that such votes are skewed by the fact that more remainers (and I include myself in this) have time to fanny about on computers than Leavers, who for the most part are out there actually getting on with something useful

Oh c’mon AF, what’s your next excuse?
How hard/long does it take to sign an e-petition?
You might find that such votes are just an indication of the strength of public feeling...unless of course you’re implying that typical Leave supporters aren’t sufficiently computer literate.

You may be right MoP but one thing it patently isn’t is ‘simple’. The result was advisory...the situation is unprecedented unless you can provide another example of the ‘people’ having a better understanding of complex economic affairs than the ‘majority of MP’s’.

[Andy_Faber]

Oh c’mon AF, what’s your next excuse?
How hard/long does it take to sign an e-petition?
You might find that such votes are just an indication of the strength of public feeling...unless of course you’re implying that typical Leave supporters aren’t sufficiently computer literate.

You may be right MoP but one thing it patently isn’t is ‘simple’. The result was advisory...the situation is unprecedented unless you can provide another example of the ‘people’ having a better understanding of complex economic affairs than the ‘majority of MP’s’.

No I'm suggesting they are busy keeping the country moving. Not mentioned here before, some months ago I swapped a deskbound/in front of an internet connected PC 9-5 job for one where I don't see a computer all day most days, it truly changes ones focus believe me, and the focus isn't on tapping away at meaningless petitions. And yes, two of the fellahs I share my time with most days are pretty much IT illiterate. One doesn't even respond to texts. Doesn't mean his opinion isn't valid though

[ramAnag]

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Faber;39177762]No I'm suggesting they are busy keeping the country moving. Not mentioned here before, some months ago I swapped a deskbound/in front of an internet connected PC 9-5 job for one where I don't see a computer all day most days, it truly changes ones focus believe me, and the focus isn't on tapping away at meaningless petitions. And yes, two of the fellahs I share my time with most days are pretty much IT illiterate. One doesn't even respond to texts. Doesn't mean his opinion isn't valid though

Neither have I suggested that it does, but for all your newly found employment experience I know a great many people who are ‘keeping the country moving’ and being driven to the brink of insanity by the prospect of a ‘no deal’ exit and the uncertainty surrounding the whole issue.
Either way, your original suggestion re; the size of the Article 50 e-petition and ‘leavers’ being too busy to set up or sign their own just doesn’t stand up imo.

[AdiSalisbury]

Signed it 2 times. Took less than 1 minute.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/244233

At least its a positive cause.

[swaledale]

Reports are suggesting that the petition has a high number of signatures, from people living outside the UK, so don't get too excited by the numbers.

Ah yes and that prick Farage claims a Russian conspiracy (though they would prefer us to leave the EU), Fake news, there are several simple illustrations which show that this is entirely false, and as Anag says if your a UK citizen currently outside the UK you can sign, funny in the claim for Britain being global the thought that many British citizens maybe outside the UK, working on holiday and the like is "foreign to the leavers!