OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

[Geoff Parkstone]

What's that rA has Andy passed over moderatorship to you then? 😉😉 Happy Borisday

[MadAmster]

He also provides some very good reasons for not liking the man...I wouldn’t buy a used car off him let alone leave him in charge of the country.

You also have a very odd idea of ‘normal’ but, on the evidence of yesterday’s appointments , the lunatics do seem to have finally taken over the asylum.

Emigration suddenly seem a god idea, rA?

[ramAnag]

Emigration suddenly seem a god idea, rA?

Certainly does MA...more Andalusia than Amsterdam though perhaps.

Johnson, Rees-Mogg, Williamson, Raab, McVey all orchestrated by Cummings...God help us.

[Andy_Faber]

...God help us.

I’ll have a word, see if he can do anything before he’s run out of town

[Rob_the_Ram]

I’ll have a word, see if he can do anything before he’s run out of town

God should be ok!
Provided he completes and submits the "already lawful resident of UK papers" in time, he should be allowed to stay!

[Trickytreesreds]

He also provides some very good reasons for not liking the man...I wouldn’t buy a used car off him let alone leave him in charge of the country.

You also have a very odd idea of ‘normal’ but, on the evidence of yesterday’s appointments , the lunatics do seem to have finally taken over the asylum.

Worried about the lunatics here?
Think there's far worse over the channel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTjg-vt0Ao4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-hyxK9JB4Q

Sadly missed

[mistaram]

No clarification needed, you obviously don't like the man.
It would be like me trying to find positives of being a Forest supporter.
Once we leave and it won't be long now we can all get back to normal!
I'm also happy to leave without a deal, I'd prefer a deal but not a bad deal.

MoP anybody who would happy to leave with a no deal. Imo must have something missing upstairs ��

[Manofpride]

MoP anybody who would happy to leave with a no deal. Imo must have something missing upstairs ��

Bedrooms, I live in a bungalow!

There are only two options, leave with a good deal or leave with no deal, To leave with a bad deal would be suicide!

[Trickytreesreds]

Bedrooms, I live in a bungalow!

There are only two options, leave with a good deal or leave with no deal, To leave with a bad deal would be suicide!

That's the problem MOP.
Getting folks to understand what a bad deal is.
Fair trade? No problem.
Being held under the political umbrella, with no say in how you want to run your country? Bad deal.

The back stop is designed to be exactly that. To keep NI tied into the customs union and effectively bounding us all.
It is this very thing that gives Swale his credence of argument. Better to be in and argue your case.
The fact we win nothing inside the EU escapes him.
But I'm not allowing a Union to bind me, with no say.

Balls in their court. Be sensible and deal fairly, or sod it. Keep it.

They are terrified that we will show the rest of them, there is a way out. That's why they being so obstinate.

Brought it on themselves, by over reaching. Clocks ticking.

[AngryRam]

Far from reverting to type, I reminded myslef by reading through this the thread on this topic that its utterly pointless having a debate with people who are so brain dead as to believe that an "optimistic view" will carry us through and carry on repeating utter *******s that has been shown to be utter *******s re the advantages of Brexit.

Its obvious that those who voted leave wouldn't admit they were wrong, even if there was complete evidence that the day after leaving the EU, they would all be dead! They'd just say "It would be worth it to be free of a so called undemocratic institution"!

All the debate on here has shown is just how clueless the vast majority of people are, putting any facts or reality their way is merely casting pearls before swine, pointless.

So in essence, you reverted to type.. I rest my case.

[AngryRam]

No. Verhofstadt et al have said that the problem with the EU is that it doesn't have enough power and that the member states must pass ever more power and influence over to the EU, culminating in a federal Europe.

They spent decennia denying that a US of E was the aim. they now openly embrace it.

Surely enough in itself to worry the poo out of everyone.
Still the Remainers think nothing ever changes in th EU but it does.
Doomed the whole project.

[swaledale]

Well at least we know Boris's "plan" do **** all and then blame the EU for not negotiating!

[Manofpride]

Well at least we know Boris's "plan" do **** all and then blame the EU for not negotiating!

If the EU are not prepared to negotiate with the new Prime minister of the UK of coarse it's their fault. Let's get back to the table and start by the removal of the Back Stop and we're nearly there. If the EU won't play ball there is nothing else we can do but leave without a deal.
No more kicking the can, we have to leave on the 31st Oct.

[Trickytreesreds]

If the EU are not prepared to negotiate with the new Prime minister of the UK of coarse it's their fault. Let's get back to the table and start by the removal of the Back Stop and we're nearly there. If the EU won't play ball there is nothing else we can do but leave without a deal.
No more kicking the can, we have to leave on the 31st Oct.

MOP, you're wasting your breath.
At the very least, the remoaners want the back stop. It ties us in on a technicality.
**** load of divorce money/no say on anything/yet have to abide by EU trade rules.
Bum deal beyond belief.
Just get it done, all this pissing about helps no one.
We can move on and they can get on at playing pretend to be a super nation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsdsh2CL-cA

[swaledale]

MOP, you're wasting your breath.
At the very least, the remoaners want the back stop. It ties us in on a technicality.
**** load of divorce money/no say on anything/yet have to abide by EU trade rules.
Bum deal beyond belief.
Just get it done, all this pissing about helps no one.
We can move on and they can get on at playing pretend to be a super nation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsdsh2CL-cA

No it doesn't its an interim position thats why its called a Withdrawal Agreement, during that interim we can sort out the actual trade deal.

But I guess it makes sense to **** the countries economy for at least a decade, damage the futures of the upcoming generation and make us an isolated figure in the world with no influence subject to the whims and largesse of the USA, China and India to name but three countries who will of course trade with us on terms to our advantage purely out of kindness?

Seems an entirely rational and intelligent decision to take, I mean its on a par with shooting oneself in the foot and saying optimistically that everything will be fine (after all we survived the war!).