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[Andy_Faber]

Honestly? ‘An interesting set of personal perspectives?’
That’ll be why you once (at least) suggested taking the thread down, and why you are repeatedly so dismissive and disrespectful towards those who continue to question the ‘wisdom’ of Brexit then.

I'm seriously considering closing all the 'putting the world to rights' threads, I can't think of any other way of avoiding posts such as #7932

[Geoff Parkstone]

This is true AF, can't even blame the demon booze as 7 minutes later post 7933 is reserved and non abusive

[ramAnag]

I'm seriously considering closing all the 'putting the world to rights' threads, I can't think of any other way of avoiding posts such as #7932

But you’ve since described them, or at least one of them, as an ‘interesting set of personal perspectives’...and you’re already armed with the ability to censor those who you consider to have overstepped the mark.
Wouldn’t have thought it was up to you to decide what can or cannot be debated.

[Andy_Faber]

Wouldn’t have thought it was up to you to decide what can or cannot be debated.

'You really are such a dumbass, scum like you, clearly a chap with no ****ing clue at all, Jeeze what a moron you are, now **** off!'

Is not debate

[Trickytreesreds]

I'm seriously considering closing all the 'putting the world to rights' threads, I can't think of any other way of avoiding posts such as #7932

That wasn't a post. It was a moronic assault, with the tone of a rambling lunatic.
believe me, he would not have said that in my local.
Swale has the charm and finesse of Pol Pot, with the same attitude, of the party is always right or its a bullet.

Disgusting individual.

Lines like this- never proven even when asked, say it all
Speaking as the guy who has posted endless xenophobic, racist bigoted crap on here,

You defend him RA, you never, ever pull him up for it, like you would anyone else.

[ramAnag]

That wasn't a post. It was a moronic assault, with the tone of a rambling lunatic.
believe me, he would not have said that in my local.
Swale has the charm and finesse of Pol Pot, with the same attitude, of the party is always right or its a bullet.

Disgusting individual.

Lines like this- never proven even when asked, say it all
Speaking as the guy who has posted endless xenophobic, racist bigoted crap on here,

You defend him RA, you never, ever pull him up for it, like you would anyone else.

For the record I don’t ‘defend’ him at all...partly because he doesn’t need me to and partly because I don’t share the same ‘style’.
I frequently support his political observations...that is totally different.
I’ve known both you and GP to say things I find just as offensive...I guess sorting it out is why people want to be mods.

[Andy_Faber]

That wasn't a post. It was a moronic assault, with the tone of a rambling lunatic.
believe me, he would not have said that in my local.
Swale has the charm and finesse of Pol Pot, with the same attitude, of the party is always right or its a bullet.

Disgusting individual.

Lines like this- never proven even when asked, say it all
Speaking as the guy who has posted endless xenophobic, racist bigoted crap on here,

You defend him RA, you never, ever pull him up for it, like you would anyone else.

Don't push it though TTR, we should be having a friendly debate not reviewing peoples' character. We almost all seem to fail at it. My post says what IT is (or isn't) not what HE is

[ramAnag]

'You really are such a dumbass, scum like you, clearly a chap with no ****ing clue at all, Jeeze what a moron you are, now **** off!'

Is not debate

Point taken...but it’s the 795 page debate you’re threatening to close down.

[Trickytreesreds]

For the record I don’t ‘defend’ him at all...partly because he doesn’t need me to and partly because I don’t share the same ‘style’.
I frequently support his political observations...that is totally different.
I’ve known both you and GP to say things I find just as offensive...I guess sorting it out is why people want to be mods.

RA my point was, when I say something you don't agree with, you make it plain I am out of order. In fact you do it with GP as well
Swale can be down right offensive and you go silent. You can't play the moral general, if you don't apply it to all.

I once said something you didn't like and one or two others agreed with you. I was asked to apologise which at the time grudingly did, but saw it was appropraite after.
Swale did something similar to me, was pulled up for it and asked to apologise. He never did and you said nothing.

That really is my point about Andys position. I have been on a yellow for a long time now and have bitten my tongue many many times..
Swale, keeps his assaults going, lashing out at everyone when he sees fit. It is no wonder AF wants to close down debating threads.

[ramAnag]

RA my point was, when I say something you don't agree with, you make it plain I am out of order. In fact you do it with GP as well
Swale can be down right offensive and you go silent. You can't play the moral general, if you don't apply it to all.

I once said something you didn't like and one or two others agreed with you. I was asked to apologise which at the time grudingly did, but saw it was appropraite after.
Swale did something similar to me, was pulled up for it and asked to apologise. He never did and you said nothing.

That really is my point about Andys position. I have been on a yellow for a long time now and have bitten my tongue many many times..
Swale, keeps his assaults going, lashing out at everyone when he sees fit. It is no wonder AF wants to close down debating threads.

Tricky...I’m not a mod and have absolutely no desire to be. I stand up for myself and occasionally others if I think they’re being unfairly ‘got at’...as I do in real life. You, GP and occasionally AF love to portray us as some sort of double act but it’s not the case and it’s not up to me to tell Swale how to behave, he’s his own man.
As I remember it, you accused me of something that was demonstrably untrue. I defended myself...you, eventually, apologised...water under the bridge now.
GP said something, just before Christmas if I remember correctly. It wasn’t about anyone on the forum, but was probably the most callous thing I’ve ever read on here. More offensive than anything written in anger by Swale, imo. I was actually quite shocked, told him what I thought...no more, no less.
Such comments have nothing to do with the nature of the thread...they’re to do with the individuals concerned. I have little idea how the card system works on here. Surprised you’re still ‘on a yellow’ but, as I’ve already said, it surely proves that AF already has the means to penalise anyone who ‘crosses the line’ without threatening to close down threads which survive entirely because of the interest and comment they generate.

[swaledale]

Don't push it though TTR, we should be having a friendly debate not reviewing peoples' character. We almost all seem to fail at it. My post says what IT is (or isn't) not what HE is

And yet you make unprovoked two completely wrong insulting statements about 2 of my posts and then pretend it never happened? Hypocrite!

As for Thicky, he forgets the stuff he has posted on this thread pure vile xenophobic crap, frankly he can play the innocent all he likes but I will henceforth ignore the ****!

[Trickytreesreds]

And yet you make unprovoked two completely wrong insulting statements about 2 of my posts and then pretend it never happened? Hypocrite!

As for Thicky, he forgets the stuff he has posted on this thread pure vile xenophobic crap, frankly he can play the innocent all he likes but I will henceforth ignore the ****!

Halleluyah

[swaledale]

Halleluyah

Your still a jerk though! How somebody can be so ****ing dim is beyond me, but every time you post you look a complete dimwit! Still given there is an audience of 4 on here your less of an issue than ole Foxy, but hey ho.

For the record I'm not angry just enjoy telling you what an utter **** you are bye bye!

[Trickytreesreds]

Your still a jerk though! How somebody can be so ****ing dim is beyond me, but every time you post you look a complete dimwit! Still given there is an audience of 4 on here your less of an issue than ole Foxy, but hey ho.

For the record I'm not angry just enjoy telling you what an utter **** you are bye bye!

That must be a record
What a twonk

[Geoff Parkstone]

It will be a shame to lose a poster like Swale, who I don't always agree with (!) as he brings a different perspective - although rA also brings the same one and can come on as substitute. But he seems to be trying his hardest to provoke cards by clearly quite deliberately having another abusive rant against a fellow poster.

If we all thought the same, this would be a very dull place, but please can we at least disagree in a respectful manner? rA and I may disagree on a lot of things, and may want to call each other many things, but we dont, it stays civil if somewhat "tense". Swale, you may think its fun to be abusive towards a fellow poster but I, for one, fail to share the humour.

I may not agree with all of TTR's views, but I will defend his right to express them, as Voltaire might have said when viewing this forum.

So there's the dilemma? Silence the opinion makers, or silence the cause?