OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

[Trickytreesreds]

and the take over moves another leap forward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZk2viMcKnc

[MadAmster]

Ah but, Tricky, when the plans are made, will they have to be sanctioned by the EU first? If so, one country could veto it.

As for the UK joining it, No veto? Simple majority? That would leave the UK open to even more of the very things many never wanted and are currently being removed from the Statute books by BoJo. Would the UK actually rejoin and have less influence over the USE than t did over the EU? Sun readers would never allow it because Urs hasn't got big tits

[ramAnag]

Ah but, Tricky, when the plans are made, will they have to be sanctioned by the EU first? If so, one country could veto it.

As for the UK joining it, No veto? Simple majority? That would leave the UK open to even more of the very things many never wanted and are currently being removed from the Statute books by BoJo. Would the UK actually rejoin and have less influence over the USE than t did over the EU? Sun readers would never allow it because Urs hasn't got big tits

What? You mean the little old UK has become less influential and more isolated since Brexit, MA? Surely not...who’da thunk?

[Trickytreesreds]

Ah but, Tricky, when the plans are made, will they have to be sanctioned by the EU first? If so, one country could veto it.

As for the UK joining it, No veto? Simple majority? That would leave the UK open to even more of the very things many never wanted and are currently being removed from the Statute books by BoJo. Would the UK actually rejoin and have less influence over the USE than t did over the EU? Sun readers would never allow it because Urs hasn't got big tits

Oh dear MA, was you not listening clearly?

They want to do away with trivial things like vetos and referendums.
They slow everything down and make the unification dream rather laborious.
The Guy rant near the end is the actual message and no amount of EU sanctioning will count soon.

Macrons latest master plan to reinvent the EU with a political alignment, including non members is another ruse.
It really is hysterical how folks refuse to see what's going on.

[Trickytreesreds]

What? You mean the little old UK has become less influential and more isolated since Brexit, MA? Surely not...who’da thunk?

Less influential because we are not in it, I can live with
But the way we had bugger all influence whilst in it, said it all to me.

[Trickytreesreds]

I am currently in Bavaria with Tabita.
Thought I'd bring you up to speed on the current German feeling with the EU right here.
In her town, it has been flooded with migrants, that they can't now cope with in the cities. The crime has shot up, in particular ***ual harrassment. Tabs was always a keen runner/cyclist. Now daren't do it on her own. The locals blame the EU softness where the borders are concerned, giving me a bit of a giggle.
Perhaps they've all become racist xenophobes as well?

[swaledale]

No idea what Thicky has posted but would rightly assume its a) *******s, b) based on dodgy tinternet sources or c) some anecdotal "experience" he has had which is about as close to reality as his thoughts usually are.

[Trickytreesreds]

No idea what Thicky has posted but would rightly assume its a) *******s, b) based on dodgy tinternet sources or c) some anecdotal "experience" he has had which is about as close to reality as his thoughts usually are.

STOP LYING, YOU KNOW EACTLY WHAT IT WAS ABOUT.

All the clips are Von der lyon, saying exactly what is coming next. Not my words/not a dodgy site/not an anecdotal experiance

1. Federal Europe drive forward
2. Work within current agreements and/or tearing up the old ones and replace
3. removal of vetos
4. removal of independent referendums/decisions
5 European army (something Clegg claimed was a dangerous fantasy)
6 Political decisions made in Brussels not seperate countries.

You idiots keep waving that blue flag if you wish, like the blind leading the blind.

Here she is again. No vetos/rejections/elections. Suck it up butter cup and long live the Fatherland.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_asRTpiE458

[MadAmster]

Oh dear MA, was you not listening clearly?

They want to do away with trivial things like vetos and referendums.
They slow everything down and make the unification dream rather laborious.
The Guy rant near the end is the actual message and no amount of EU sanctioning will count soon.

Macrons latest master plan to reinvent the EU with a political alignment, including non members is another ruse.
It really is hysterical how folks refuse to see what's going on.

... or maybe it's you. My first sentence "Ah but, Tricky, when the plans are made, will they have to be sanctioned by the EU first? If so, one country could veto it." asked a question which you didn't address. If her plan is to have the EU morph into the US of E then one country could still veto it..... couldn't they?

[Trickytreesreds]

... or maybe it's you. My first sentence "Ah but, Tricky, when the plans are made, will they have to be sanctioned by the EU first? If so, one country could veto it." asked a question which you didn't address. If her plan is to have the EU morph into the US of E then one country could still veto it..... couldn't they?

Jesus MA
Just listen to it, not me.
She made the speech, the auditorium clapped and cheered.
Its what they want and like every treaty and referendum, they get what they want by hook or by crook.
Ireland/Holland/Denmark all rejected things in the past, do you have it now or not?

Let me say it again.
SHE SAID- THEY WANT TO REMOVE VETOS/REFERENDUMS/INDEPENDENT POLITICAL DECISIONS.
THIS WHAT YOU, THE PEOPLE WANT- WE HAVE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN, AS IT SLOWS THE PROJECT DOWN.

Now call me slow, but that to me means the EU (not you the people/populations) has decided that democracy is not good for the project.
So it gets closer to crunch time for many countrys.
I would suspect Poland/Hungary would be against that. Maybe even Holland, as the Dutch tend to air on the side of caution.
But, you could face the decision of conform, or get out very soon.

We started with a club of economic co operation.
Its getting close now to its end game.

Just listen to to her words.
After the last 2 years, it is clear that needs to happen, with her commenting on COVID and Ukraine.
Political decisions from Brussels on health after the shambles they caused and the EU army, that has always been denied.

If you don't want to believe it MA, that is up to you. But she couldn't have put any more obvious for you, if she'd tried.
No amount of objections are stopping this. They are prepared to rip up all existing treaties and start again.
Have another look at Macrons speech as well. It all makes sense now.

You will have no choice other than comply or withdraw very soon. That much is very clear.

[Trickytreesreds]

Bonkers, but hilarious.
Waste of money

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDT1lsaxOQo

[Geoff Parkstone]

Agreed, utterly pathetic and meaningless in my view. But the daughter of a friend of mine is studying (interpretative) dance at university - in this country - and I have seen some of the work. Sorry to say I just don't get it - can anyone tell me what I am missing?

[Trickytreesreds]

Agreed, utterly pathetic and meaningless in my view. But the daughter of a friend of mine is studying (interpretative) dance at university - in this country - and I have seen some of the work. Sorry to say I just don't get it - can anyone tell me what I am missing?

Yes drugs. See RA he'll help

[ramAnag]

Yes drugs. See RA he'll help

Meaning?

[swaledale]

... or maybe it's you. My first sentence "Ah but, Tricky, when the plans are made, will they have to be sanctioned by the EU first? If so, one country could veto it." asked a question which you didn't address. If her plan is to have the EU morph into the US of E then one country could still veto it..... couldn't they?

Jeez MA, he got his wish and the UK have done a hard Brexit, costing themselves in excess of £450 million per week in GDP, weakening our influence in Europe and the rest of the world and it seems likely to become notorious for not keeping international treaties and yet he/she/it is still obsessed with the EU.

I've had him on ignore for over 18 months now, and apart from the odd occasion (which I always regret) never read his posts as what he posts is never reality, never worth reading and his little englander rants are frankly boring. I suggest you do the same.

For one it really upsets him to think his "pearls of wisdom" are being ignored and for 2 arguing with him is like arguing with a pigeon, you can be clearly right and him be clearly wrong, but he still posts utter ****e in response and ignores anything that doesn't suit his own prejudices!