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  • I think the country will 'bottle it' and the Conservators will win

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    • I think it's totally irrelevant whether it's the Blue or the Red Tories who get in. Nowt will change, at worst, or next to nowt at best. There will be no moving closer to the EU. There will be no hunt for the missing billions from the Covid VIP lane catastrophe or the failed app or the failed test and trace, nobody in court for those shenanigans. More of the same. Pray that Reform doesn't get a majority, things will change, vastly, but not for the better.

      I realise that I've painted a pretty grim picture of "more of the same" but that is what I expect. The utility companies will keep on getting fat profits, passing that on to shareholders rather than, especially in the case of the water companies, spending those billions on repairing the broken water system or going for green electricity or building hydrogen plants. They've (Water) now said they need taxpayer's money to sort the huge problems out. just maybe they should have invested in repairs over the past 2 or 3 decades instead of giving it to the shareholders... Nationalise them and pay shareholders 1p a share. They'll moan like hell but it's more than they deserve.

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      • Originally posted by MadAmster View Post
        I think it's totally irrelevant whether it's the Blue or the Red Tories who get in. Nowt will change, at worst, or next to nowt at best. There will be no moving closer to the EU. There will be no hunt for the missing billions from the Covid VIP lane catastrophe or the failed app or the failed test and trace, nobody in court for those shenanigans. More of the same. Pray that Reform doesn't get a majority, things will change, vastly, but not for the better.

        I realise that I've painted a pretty grim picture of "more of the same" but that is what I expect. The utility companies will keep on getting fat profits, passing that on to shareholders rather than, especially in the case of the water companies, spending those billions on repairing the broken water system or going for green electricity or building hydrogen plants. They've (Water) now said they need taxpayer's money to sort the huge problems out. just maybe they should have invested in repairs over the past 2 or 3 decades instead of giving it to the shareholders... Nationalise them and pay shareholders 1p a share. They'll moan like hell but it's more than they deserve.
        Small steps, MA.
        Agree with many of your fears, although I don’t think there’s the remotest possibility of Reform gaining a majority.
        Unfortunately perhaps, I don’t believe there’s any great appetite in this country for a huge move to the Left…as was proved, three PM’s ago, at the last General Election.
        What I am reminded of however is the election of Blair in 1997. He was hardly ‘left wing’, but following on from what we’d had to put up with for almost two decades it was, as I remember things, like stepping from winter into spring.
        Hoping for something similar but without the screw ups that came towards the end this time.

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        • I'd say your right rA, Ma is a tad too pessimistic, though the parroting of lines like "no magic money tree" by Labour is depressing. I mean the money is there its just in the hands in a very small percentage of the population who have grown richer as the proportion of those in poverty has grown ever bigger.

          But even for all that was wrong with Blair, though he did have the pragmatic Brown as chancellor, by and large life was much better for most.

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          • Only a tad, though, Swale.

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            • So we’ve seen the results from this week’s election dress rehearsals…yet another hammering for the Tories, which has been the case ever since Johnson was finally ‘found out’ and exposed for what he is.
              Quite obvious now who has a fear of making this a (General) election year, but what is the point of them hanging on in government wondering how long they can continue to limp along and whether electing yet another PM/leader is the answer?
              Just get on with it and name the day. The country is calling for change and, after the last couple of days, the message really couldn’t be any clearer.
              Last edited by ramAnag; 05-05-2024, 08:46 AM.

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              • I can't see the point either of them limping on. Nothing is going to change. Just call it and get it done.

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                • Originally posted by SithHappens View Post
                  I can't see the point either of them limping on. Nothing is going to change. Just call it and get it done.
                  Indeed. Then Tricky can start a careless Labour thread

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                  • Originally posted by MadAmster View Post
                    Indeed. Then Tricky can start a careless Labour thread
                    Lol…wonder if it’ll go as well as his immigration thread? On the subject of which…it was reported last week that the Home Office had ‘lost’ over five and a half thousand they hoped were destined for Rwanda. Seems their carelessness knows no bounds.

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                    • Originally posted by SithHappens View Post
                      I can't see the point either of them limping on. Nothing is going to change. Just call it and get it done.
                      Ah you forget, its another 6 or so months when they can draw their salaries, loot more tax payers money, implement policies which will stymie Labour and generally swan around in power. They won't let that go until they have to.

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                      • Originally posted by ramAnag View Post
                        Lol…wonder if it’ll go as well as his immigration thread? On the subject of which…it was reported last week that the Home Office had ‘lost’ over five and a half thousand they hoped were destined for Rwanda. Seems their carelessness knows no bounds.
                        so it can run into a Tory bashing thread then? Oh the ironing.

                        Still Starmer wants open borders, wait till that kicks in

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                        • Originally posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
                          so it can run into a Tory bashing thread then? Oh the ironing.

                          Still Starmer wants open borders, wait till that kicks in
                          Ironing? You crease me.

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                          • Originally posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
                            so it can run into a Tory bashing thread then? Oh the ironing.

                            Still Starmer wants open borders, wait till that kicks in
                            Actually what he’s said is that he wants a ‘coherent plan’ for immigration…and I think it’s voters, rather than me, that have been ‘Tory bashing’ since Thursday. Seems immigration might not be quite the issue you want it to be.
                            Anyway, you get back to your collars and cuffs…think you might have missed a bit there.

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                            • Originally posted by SithHappens View Post
                              Ironing? You crease me.
                              One would have thought he had more pressing things to do

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                              • Originally posted by MadAmster View Post
                                One would have thought he had more pressing things to do
                                He's not been on a few days probably letting off some steam.

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