Election Year or Fear!

[Andy_Faber]

Interesting semi-related story: remember all those celebs who said they’d quit U.K. if Brexit happened, but actually didn’t? Well, one did, a semi well known musician friend of mine who moved to France (the week before the Covid lockdown!). Well, Starmer is failing on immigration already because thanks to this weeks result, the French move to the right and apparently the impossibility of French bureaucracy, my friend decided earlier today to move back! I’ve suggested Clacton, not a well received idea

[Trickytreesreds]

Modern Day Oswald Mosley?

That's not an explanation, just an opinion. Mosley espoused anti semitism./sought alliances with European dictators/ even calling his movement a fascist party.
He was even jailed in WW2 for his leanings.
Ironically, (this is for you), he was a staunch ally of the pan European movement and state. though the EU never reached the level he wanted, it did form something he wanted.
Now exactly how is that Farage, who hates most of all that?

[Trickytreesreds]

Unfortunately, MA…there are people, and Tricky MAY be one of them, who won’t consider that to make NF an ‘awful human being’.

I asked for proof, your turn then.

NB. Farage was asked yesterday, what he going to do for Black people?
Answer, absolutely nothing, as no ones skin colour or race, should get preferential treatment or leg ups, compared to others.
That deflated the interviewer immediately

[Trickytreesreds]

Interesting semi-related story: remember all those celebs who said they’d quit U.K. if Brexit happened, but actually didn’t? Well, one did, a semi well known musician friend of mine who moved to France (the week before the Covid lockdown!). Well, Starmer is failing on immigration already because thanks to this weeks result, the French move to the right and apparently the impossibility of French bureaucracy, my friend decided earlier today to move back! I’ve suggested Clacton, not a well received idea

My brother in law and sister visited the states recently. They met up with his ex boss and wife. She is an ardent Democrat amd said she had no problem with immigration. Her step son, called her an ostrich as they live on a ranch in 15 acres. He on the other hand lives in the city and carries a F/A.
Trumps popularity is rising again because of this and she wants to move to "lefty|" England if Trump gets in? They dare not tell her, that Europe has a massive migrant problem and is lurching to the right. France tomorrow could be a hammer blow in the EU anf its failures to manage those territories.

Maddy, is doing what loads have done in Europe in answer to this problem. Ignore the populations feelings and demonise the leader of any party willing to challenge it.

If Europe and Tories and done their jobs. There would be no need for Reform/ AFD/ National rally/ Brothers of Italy etc.
However , that's democracy for you. Much as the globalist compliants hate it, all of us get a vote.

[ramAnag]

I asked for proof, your turn then.

NB. Farage was asked yesterday, what he going to do for Black people?
Answer, absolutely nothing, as no ones skin colour or race, should get preferential treatment or leg ups, compared to others.
That deflated the interviewer immediately

You actually asked Sith for an explanation of his description of Farage…not me for proof.

MA raised the parallel between Farage and a contemporary, latter day Mosley…there are loads…I’ll list them if it helps.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Interesting semi-related story: remember all those celebs who said they’d quit U.K. if Brexit happened, but actually didn’t? Well, one did, a semi well known musician friend of mine who moved to France (the week before the Covid lockdown!). Well, Starmer is failing on immigration already because thanks to this weeks result, the French move to the right and apparently the impossibility of French bureaucracy, my friend decided earlier today to move back! I’ve suggested Clacton, not a well received idea

Hope he'll be safe in the little boat ☹️

[SithHappens]

He's open about his prejudices, says he doesn't like hearing other languages, is open about his dislike of Muslims, thinks breast feeding women should do it where they can't be seen, admires putin, defends disgusting ***ist comments made by his mate trump, doesn't want people with hiv coming to the uk...hes just a thoroughly awful person imo.

[Trickytreesreds]

You actually asked Sith for an explanation of his description of Farage…not me for proof.

MA raised the parallel between Farage and a contemporary, latter day Mosley…there are loads…I’ll list them if it helps.

Please do, seeing as Mosley was a self confessed fascist and admirer of Hitler and Mussolini. I am intrigued how you can put a parrallel on that with any justification. You also can explain to me, how the right is Rising all over the EU in response to the inept policies and lack of care from the EU body.

[swaledale]

Its just nice to have a proper grown up politician as PM. Now of course they have to deliver, but lets face it, almost anybody would do better than the shower of ****e we have had for the last 14 years.

I sincerely hope the Tories welcome Farage on board, that will destroy them completely, but don't see that happening. As for Farage, well given he isn't a conviction politician, purely a loud mouthed **** stirrer, he will prove to be a crap constituency MP, will rapidly get fed up with having zero influence in Parliament (if he actually attends) and eventually when he realises the game is up will move on to some other lucrative venture where he can grift and dupe other simple people into giving him money.

I fully expect him to keep his tenure as Clacton MP, after all he has track record of making the most of a taxpayer funded salary and the expenses that go with it.

Unfortunately as will soon be demonstrated, he has no ability to actually do the hard yards that being successful in politics requires. By that I mean actually achieving something, not using clear lies and false rhetoric to scare people into making decisions that are clearly against the interests of voters as a whole.

If Reform lasts until the end of this parliament, I'd be very surprised, even thick voters will note that they achieve nothing in due course, except of course the very dim, i.e. those who claim Brexit would be a success, its just not been delivered properly and those who seem to think that demographics can somehow be countered by wishful thinking!

Ah well good luck to Starmer, he may not be perfect, but not seeing some stupid 3 word slogan on a lectern designed to appeal to the dim witted is a great start.

[Trickytreesreds]

He's open about his prejudices, says he doesn't like hearing other languages, is open about his dislike of Muslims, thinks breast feeding women should do it where they can't be seen, admires putin, defends disgusting ***ist comments made by his mate trump, doesn't want people with hiv coming to the uk...hes just a thoroughly awful person imo.

Oh dear, wrong on so many levels and quantum for the tone and propaganda being spewed out.

1. Doesn't like hearing other languages? Think you'll find that was reference to the speed of immigration into many areas, where the person speaking English on the bus was the minority.
2. Dislike of Muslims, thats a damned lie. It is actually, a dislike of radical Islam and the problems it brings into Muslim society preventing any integration. Islam is not tolerant of other religions and cultures and radical Islam teaches and encourages punishment and agression towards that. HAPPENING ALL OVER EUROPE.
3. ANOTHER DISTORTED LIE YOU'VE SUCKED IN-
The 2010 Equality Act makes it unlawful for a business to discriminate against a breastfeeding woman.

Mr Farage later sought to clarify his position in the face of what he said was "extraordinary media fabrication" of his comments.

In a statement, he said he had never suggested women should be compelled to breastfeed in a certain way or place.

"Let me get this clear, as I said on the radio and as I repeat now, I personally have no problem with mothers breastfeeding wherever they want," he said. "If the establishment in question, in this case Claridge's, wants to maintain rules about this stuff, then that is up to them, as it should be.
4.Admires Putin? My god, are you really that deluded?
Lets get this one out in the open, seeing as Clegg and later Starmer have tried to twist this one, after the Ukraine farce exposed by Farage.
Nigel Farage has said he “admired” Vladmir Putin “as a political operator because he’s managed to take control of running Russia”.
“As an operator, but not as a human being", I would say

“I stood up in the European parliament in 2014 and I said, and I quote, ‘there will be a war in Ukraine’,” said the Reform UK leader, speaking to Nick Robinson on a special election BBC Panorama show. “Why did I say that? It was obvious to me that the ever-eastward expansion of Nato and the European Union was giving this man a reason to his Russian people to say ‘they’re coming for us again’ and to go to war.”
5. HIV? Neither do I either, as well as a host of other infections and diseases. You are aware are you not, that to emigrate to another country, you have to pass a clean bill of health for a VISA? The whole idea being, to protect you health services and the health of its citizens.
You live in a fantasy world mate and that's half the problem with Europe.

[Andy_Faber]

Its just nice to have a proper grown up politician as PM. Now of course they have to deliver, but lets face it, almost anybody would do better than the shower of ****e we have had for the last 14 years.

I sincerely hope the Tories welcome Farage on board, that will destroy them completely, but don't see that happening. As for Farage, well given he isn't a conviction politician, purely a loud mouthed **** stirrer, he will prove to be a crap constituency MP, will rapidly get fed up with having zero influence in Parliament (if he actually attends) and eventually when he realises the game is up will move on to some other lucrative venture where he can grift and dupe other simple people into giving him money.

I fully expect him to keep his tenure as Clacton MP, after all he has track record of making the most of a taxpayer funded salary and the expenses that go with it.

Unfortunately as will soon be demonstrated, he has no ability to actually do the hard yards that being successful in politics requires. By that I mean actually achieving something, not using clear lies and false rhetoric to scare people into making decisions that are clearly against the interests of voters as a whole.

If Reform lasts until the end of this parliament, I'd be very surprised, even thick voters will note that they achieve nothing in due course, except of course the very dim, i.e. those who claim Brexit would be a success, its just not been delivered properly and those who seem to think that demographics can somehow be countered by wishful thinking!

Ah well good luck to Starmer, he may not be perfect, but not seeing some stupid 3 word slogan on a lectern designed to appeal to the dim witted is a great start.

If there’s one thing worse than a poor loser it’s a poor winner…

[ramAnag]

Please do, seeing as Mosley was a self confessed fascist and admirer of Hitler and Mussolini. I am intrigued how you can put a parrallel on that with any justification. You also can explain to me, how the right is Rising all over the EU in response to the inept policies and lack of care from the EU body.

Okay…a few parallels for you.

Both good at public speaking, at least as far as the gullible are concerned, i.e. both very effective ‘rabble rousers’.

Both privately educated and from privileged backgrounds who then made a political ‘career’ out of portraying themselves as ‘men of the people’.

Both dabbled as members of the Conservative Party before becoming disenchanted egotists who formed their own Parties.

Both rapidly progressed to blame immigrants and the poor for all society’s ills. For Mosley’s Jews read Farage and Muslims.

Both present as self seeking, opportunistic populists.

Both idolised the most controversial political figures of the day. In Mosley’s case, as you rightly say, Hitler and Mussolini. In Farage’s…admiration for Putin and adulation of Trump.

Both were/are a menace to their country, although that last one may be just my opinion. There’s more but that’ll do for now. Decided whether you want to identify as a modern day ‘black shirt’ yet?

[Trickytreesreds]

Okay…a few parallels for you.

Both good at public speaking, at least as far as the gullible are concerned, i.e. both very effective ‘rabble rousers’.

Both privately educated and from privileged backgrounds who then made a political ‘career’ out of portraying themselves as ‘men of the people’.

Both dabbled as members of the Conservative Party before becoming disenchanted egotists who formed their own Parties.

Both rapidly progressed to blame immigrants and the poor for all society’s ills. For Mosley’s Jews read Farage and Muslims.

Both present as self seeking, opportunistic populists.

Both idolised the most controversial political figures of the day. In Mosley’s case, as you rightly say, Hitler and Mussolini. In Farage’s…admiration for Putin and adulation of Trump.

Both were/are a menace to their country, although that last one may be just my opinion. There’s more but that’ll do for now. Decided whether you want to identify as a modern day ‘black shirt’ yet?

You are seriously calling that a comparison? lololol

Laughable.

Here's one for you to defend, from Jess Phillips after what Farage has highlighted. This is the problem with some ot you lot. Rather than talk about and confront a problem, you'd rather persecute the person raising the points.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBbFxgO4G8A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpziZQmgpvc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txcBwyP7qu4

Have a watch and Phillips is complicit in not calling the problem out fully.

[Trickytreesreds]

I do notice, that no one really wants to talk about the rise of the right in Europe, which currently is far higher than here.
Is that an inconvinient truth that bursts the left/ globalist bubble, that the EU has pushed?

Maybe you trips to France are in danger RA?

Can anyone explain this properly, without blaming Farage?

[ramAnag]

You are seriously calling that a comparison? lololol

Laughable.

Here's one for you to defend, from Jess Phillips after what Farage has highlighted. This is the problem with some ot you lot. Rather than talk about and confront a problem, you'd rather persecute the person raising the points.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBbFxgO4G8A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpziZQmgpvc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txcBwyP7qu4

Have a watch and Phillips is complicit in not calling the problem out fully.

No, not ‘a comparison’…seven, very easy, parallels… ‘comparisons’ if you prefer.
Still, if you just want to return to being ‘Capt.YouTube’, have someone else make your points and shift the debate somewhere else, that’s up to you.
I’ve got better things to do…oh and I’m not sure how your beloved Nigel is being ‘persecuted’ but I’m certainly not involved. I’m just supporting the description of him being an ‘awful human being’.