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[Trickytreesreds]

Farage upto his old tricks, stoking things up over the horrific incidents in Southport by insinuating the truth about the perpetrator is being withheld.

It always is.

Where do you want to start? Lee Rigby? The 3 gay men in Reading? All were subject to facts black outs and even when done in the name of Islam, not put down as terror related.
The Manchester airport farce is a disgrace. The usual MP's and activists screamed racism/ police brutality, until a newspaper released anothe video, showing the horrific violence issued out, by those poor ethnics. Even now they aren't telling the whole story. There are 2 other incidents yet to be discussed. THE MGP, weren't even going to persue this, apart from prosecute the copper, until the outrage has forced them to,

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Published:
18:28
27/07/2024
Greater Manchester Police is investigating and appealing for witnesses in relation to three incidents that occurred on the evening of Tuesday 23rd July 2024 in Manchester Airport Terminal 2.

Witnesses are asked to upload information, images, or footage to the Public Portal: https://mipp.police.uk/operation/06GMP23S59-PO1

The first incident is an altercation between passengers from Qatar Airways flight QR023, which arrived at 7.20pm. The altercation may have taken place during the flight or afterwards in the T2 baggage hall.

The second incident is a violent altercation involving members of the public in T2 Starbucks at approximately 8.22pm.

The third incident is the assault of three police officers which occurred in the T2 car park pay point area at 8.28pm. This resulted in the three officers receiving head injuries, including a broken nose.

The Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) is independently investigating the use of force by GMP officers that directly followed these events and is shown within the footage on social media.

[ramAnag]

That's a bummer that - it used to aid my Christmas wine budget. Honestly it was crazy that a household with say 400k annual income with 2 working pension aged people still got the WFA...

…and there, in a nutshell, from he who spouts as much common sense as he does utter nonsense, is the justification for what Labour are aiming to do with the WFA. I’m a million miles from GP’s apparent level of wealth, but our level of income really never warranted us receiving such a benefit at a time when there were/are people experiencing real poverty.

Hope those who are, for geographical reasons, dependent on oil for heating are not forgotten at the time of the next oil crisis which will, in all probability and according to the largely contrived rules of ‘supply and demand’, be next winter.

[ramAnag]

It always is.

Where do you want to start? Lee Rigby? The 3 gay men in Reading? All were subject to facts black outs and even when done in the name of Islam, not put down as terror related.
The Manchester airport farce is a disgrace. The usual MP's and activists screamed racism/ police brutality, until a newspaper released anothe video, showing the horrific violence issued out, by those poor ethnics. Even now they aren't telling the whole story. There are 2 other incidents yet to be discussed. THE MGP, weren't even going to persue this, apart from prosecute the copper, until the outrage has forced them to,

Main article content
News

Published:
18:28
27/07/2024
Greater Manchester Police is investigating and appealing for witnesses in relation to three incidents that occurred on the evening of Tuesday 23rd July 2024 in Manchester Airport Terminal 2.

Witnesses are asked to upload information, images, or footage to the Public Portal: https://mipp.police.uk/operation/06GMP23S59-PO1

The first incident is an altercation between passengers from Qatar Airways flight QR023, which arrived at 7.20pm. The altercation may have taken place during the flight or afterwards in the T2 baggage hall.

The second incident is a violent altercation involving members of the public in T2 Starbucks at approximately 8.22pm.

The third incident is the assault of three police officers which occurred in the T2 car park pay point area at 8.28pm. This resulted in the three officers receiving head injuries, including a broken nose.

The Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) is independently investigating the use of force by GMP officers that directly followed these events and is shown within the footage on social media.

Oh look…our Nottingham correspondent is trying to stir up the racism issue again! What a surprise…NF’s agent TTR.
Fact is Tricky…the original perpetrators appear to have behaved abysmally. Doesn’t matter what colour or creed they are…their behaviour was wholly unacceptable and I’ve got no sympathy at all, but that will NEVER justify a police officer - an agent of law enforcement - kicking someone who was already restrained in the head.

[Geoff Parkstone]

…and there, in a nutshell, from he who spouts as much common sense as he does utter nonsense, is the justification for what Labour are aiming to do with the WFA. I’m a million miles from GP’s apparent level of wealth, but our level of income really never warranted us receiving such a benefit at a time when there were/are people experiencing real poverty.

Hope those who are, for geographical reasons, dependent on oil for heating are not forgotten at the time of the next oil crisis which will, in all probability and according to the largely contrived rules of ‘supply and demand’, be next winter.

The amount was illustrative as opposed to a personal income indication.....

[Trickytreesreds]

Oh look…our Nottingham correspondent is trying to stir up the racism issue again! What a surprise…NF’s agent TTR.
Fact is Tricky…the original perpetrators appear to have behaved abysmally. Doesn’t matter what colour or creed they are…their behaviour was wholly unacceptable and I’ve got no sympathy at all, but that will NEVER justify a police officer - an agent of law enforcement - kicking someone who was already restrained in the head.

No sunshine it doesn't on paper. Professional standards and all that. Yet he wasn't restrained was he? He had laid out 2 pathetic women coppers and assaulted the copper from behind who tasered him. He was still a loose cannon and the coppers red mist kicked in to make sure he didn't get up.

So please, explain to me, after the original video was released, that made the copper look like a thug and all the left Mp's and racial activists came out screaming racism to hang/draw and quarter him?
Then, (via a newspaper) a video showing it from a different angle comes out, showing these two to be the vicious thugs they are.
Actually, its people like you who are the problem RA. Scared to call out foul play what it happens, in case it upsets a few folks.
Because they were muslim, everyone assumed it was the police at fault, yet (and there is more to come) actually shows the police have shown great restraint here. Any other airport would have shot them.

Just for you as well, seeing as you have never been in a situation, so frightening. So pumped up and dangerous, his reaction was completely natural. he and his collegues were fighting for their lives and lucky not to have lost a firearm to one of them. you really are pathetic at times. It isn't a school figh, where detention and lines are the order of the day.
Grow up and accept that folks that start serious trouble can expect serious retribution.
Then to go on tv claiming they were the victims was laughable.

But the race card, is as good as a get out of jail card.
The government and ther police are **** scared of it as well.

[Andy_Faber]

Oh look…our Nottingham correspondent is trying to stir up the racism issue again! What a surprise…NF’s agent TTR.
Fact is Tricky…the original perpetrators appear to have behaved abysmally. Doesn’t matter what colour or creed they are…their behaviour was wholly unacceptable and I’ve got no sympathy at all, but that will NEVER justify a police officer - an agent of law enforcement - kicking someone who was already restrained in the head.

I’d beg to differ on that rA, IMO when a male punches a female in the face (almost) all bets are off.

[Ramshank72]

He only made the mistake of doing it in public view, a Gene Hunt style kicking in the back of the van would have been more appropriate.

[MadAmster]

I said when the video first surfaced that it was too soon to pass judgment. Without knowing what went on prior to the kick in the head there was no context to what happened.

Most people will now have sympathy for the officer concerned but, unfortunately for him, police have rules to follow as well as the Law and it's very likely he won't be a police officer much longer. Not because of outrage by MPs. Not because of faux outrage from left wing organisations and others. Simply because he broke the rules he was sworn to uphold.

My thoughts, unaffected by emotion either way. Quite simply, them's the rules and this officer is likely to fall foul of them. I'd like him to get a reprimand, an anger management course and then back on the job.

Those who started the altercation should get charged, tried and suitably sentenced if found guilty of assault, assaulting a police officer in the course of his duty, causing serious bodily harm or even GBH.

[Andy_Faber]

He only made the mistake of doing it in public view, a Gene Hunt style kicking in the back of the van would have been more appropriate.

Exactly. Brings to mind (mine anyway) the famous line from the Blues Brothers, where the police caller announces ‘the use of unnecessary violence in the apprehension of The Blues Brothers…has been approved’

[Andy_Faber]

I said when the video first surfaced that it was too soon to pass judgment. Without knowing what went on prior to the kick in the head there was no context to what happened.

Most people will now have sympathy for the officer concerned but, unfortunately for him, police have rules to follow as well as the Law and it's very likely he won't be a police officer much longer. Not because of outrage by MPs. Not because of faux outrage from left wing organisations and others. Simply because he broke the rules he was sworn to uphold.

My thoughts, unaffected by emotion either way. Quite simply, them's the rules and this officer is likely to fall foul of them. I'd like him to get a reprimand, an anger management course and then back on the job.

Those who started the altercation should get charged, tried and suitably sentenced if found guilty of assault, assaulting a police officer in the course of his duty, causing serious bodily harm or even GBH.

Well summarised and I agree

[ramAnag]

No sunshine it doesn't on paper. Professional standards and all that. Yet he wasn't restrained was he? He had laid out 2 pathetic women coppers and assaulted the copper from behind who tasered him. He was still a loose cannon and the coppers red mist kicked in to make sure he didn't get up.

So please, explain to me, after the original video was released, that made the copper look like a thug and all the left Mp's and racial activists came out screaming racism to hang/draw and quarter him?
Then, (via a newspaper) a video showing it from a different angle comes out, showing these two to be the vicious thugs they are.
Actually, its people like you who are the problem RA. Scared to call out foul play what it happens, in case it upsets a few folks.
Because they were muslim, everyone assumed it was the police at fault, yet (and there is more to come) actually shows the police have shown great restraint here. Any other airport would have shot them.

Just for you as well, seeing as you have never been in a situation, so frightening. So pumped up and dangerous, his reaction was completely natural. he and his collegues were fighting for their lives and lucky not to have lost a firearm to one of them. you really are pathetic at times. It isn't a school figh, where detention and lines are the order of the day.
Grow up and accept that folks that start serious trouble can expect serious retribution.
Then to go on tv claiming they were the victims was laughable.

But the race card, is as good as a get out of jail card.
The government and ther police are **** scared of it as well.

Tricky…you really have no idea. I wouldn’t actually ever begin to compare what we know of what happened with a ‘school fight’.
Having said that I have, in the past, had to ‘disarm’ te enage pupils of items including a house brick, knives, screwdrivers and a bicycle chain and sustained injuries which the police advised me to prosecute over, saying they would have had it happened to one of them. I didn’t…it wouldn’t have achieved anything. Oh…and I never once gave ‘lines out’ during my 30+ years of teaching.

Other than that you’re just wrong…it isn’t ‘people like me’ who are the ‘problem’…it’s those, like you, who seek to make political capital out of any incident which involves any sort of racial factor who are the ‘problem’, as you refer to it.

As regards Andy’s infinitely more sensible and respectfully made point…we will indeed have to disagree, AF. My ‘heart’ agrees with your every word…however my ‘head’ tells me that it is invariably unforgivable for someone to kick another person in the head and always wrong when it is a law enforcement officer. Two wrongs seldom make a ‘right’ and if the police are allowed to create injuries which are likely to lead to brain damage in such circumstances…then we are further along the ‘road to ruin’ than I imagined.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Hmmm, whilst I wholeheartedly agree that police actions should be proportionate, I can sympathise with the retaliatory action taken against the perp who commenced the assault. Whilst the rules demand no reaction, its hard not to sympathise with the copper in question - and equally hard to sympthise with the person owning the head.

On a lighter note I just tried to upload an image but it seems you can no longer upload a file from your computer, you can only add pic via its URL? is this so or is it just me

[ramAnag]

Hmmm, whilst I wholeheartedly agree that police actions should be proportionate, I can sympathise with the retaliatory action taken against the perp who commenced the assault. Whilst the rules demand no reaction, it’s hard not to sympathise with the copper in question - and equally hard to sympthise with the person owning the head.

…and as I said, GP…I almost certainly agree with you, but sometimes we have to look beyond our more basic and most revengeful instincts…and those in authority certainly do.

[Andy_Faber]

…and as I said, GP…I almost certainly agree with you, but sometimes we have to look beyond our more basic and most revengeful instincts…and those in authority certainly do.

I’ll be very interested to see if the two issues are prosecuted equitably. Cynical me suggests ‘community cohesion’ might play a part

[swaledale]

I’ll be very interested to see if the two issues are prosecuted equitably. Cynical me suggests ‘community cohesion’ might play a part

If the reaction of a professionally trained armed Police officer to an incident and certainly given the person he kicked had been tasered, doesn't fill people with concern, then they have clearly forgotten the actions by other individuals who were fire arms officers which resulted in the rape and death of one woman and multiple rapes, coercive behaviour of other women.

Still its good to see Thicky demonstrating the depth of his misogynism with his "pathetic women police officers" comment, merely confirms that he is a very sad and rather nasty individual as previously stated.