Election Year or Fear!

[swaledale]

You never answered my question though, what was the point of that mini-Mein Kampf you posted? Plagiarised no doubt but an impressive word count with no swearing

I repeat by the way, Gammon is hate speech, just the sort of thoughtless, childish jibe that starts proper conflict. Maybe that’s what your purpose is?

You can repeat that as often as you like, unfortunately repeating something doesn't make it true, so you may think that but your wrong in many ways as I explained quite clearly the last time you made the ludicrous statement.

I would have expected you to understand the difference between "hate" speech and a simple insult, which may I grant you result in conflict but then so can many comments or actions. Or is it your prejudice and bias that somehow makes you think that the gammons are a poor misunderstood and badly treated minority?

Mein Kampf? WTF? Where did you get that comparison from? Next you'll be claiming the Nazi's were socialists because they called themselves National Socialists!

[MadAmster]

I often wondered who Tommy Ten Names financial backers were. If this article from the Guardian is correct then it's a pretty unsavoury group of right wing tossers, IMO.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/dec/07/tommy-robinson-global-support-brexit-march

[swaledale]

In other news, Labour MP Thangam Debbonaire, says she spent 9 years as Bristol West MP, prioritising casework for asylum seekers, family visas and other immigration problems over all other things.
I'll bet her constituents were thrilled.

Touche

At what point do you think regurgitating dubious and clearly fake information on a regular basis might make you seem, how shall I put it, gullible and naïve?

[swaledale]

I often wondered who Tommy Ten Names financial backers were. If this article from the Guardian is correct then it's a pretty unsavoury group of right wing tossers, IMO.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...t-brexit-march

Rather rich ones though MA!

[ramAnag]

I often wondered who Tommy Ten Names financial backers were. If this article from the Guardian is correct then it's a pretty unsavoury group of right wing tossers, IMO.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...t-brexit-march

Interesting…but unsurprising. Always worth exposing such individuals imo.

[Andy_Faber]

You can repeat that as often as you like, unfortunately repeating something doesn't make it true, so you may think that but your wrong in many ways as I explained quite clearly the last time you made the ludicrous statement.

I would have expected you to understand the difference between "hate" speech and a simple insult, which may I grant you result in conflict but then so can many comments or actions. Or is it your prejudice and bias that somehow makes you think that the gammons are a poor misunderstood and badly treated minority?

Mein Kampf? WTF? Where did you get that comparison from? Next you'll be claiming the Nazi's were socialists because they called themselves National Socialists!

It is hate speech and it demonstrates your lack of understanding of you believe it can only be aimed at ‘the poor’, ‘the badly treated’ or’(a) minority’. Regrettably for you, we are in the era of offence being in the eye of a the offended - there’s enough case law around now to enlighten even a bigot like yourself, maybe not though

I thought the MK analogy might help you explain your ramblings, you mention it’s disciples often enough and even practise some of the traits of it’s foul tempered foul mouthed author

[Trickytreesreds]

At what point do you think regurgitating dubious and clearly fake information on a regular basis might make you seem, how shall I put it, gullible and naïve?

It was a quote off her own Twitter feed you muppet,

Perhaps she's lying to her self?
COMEDY GOLD

[Trickytreesreds]

‘Unravelling its halo very quickly.’ How exactly?
We know you hate the idea of Labour being in power, especially with a huge majority…but what have they actually done wrong?
Parliament hasn’t been ‘sitting’ for most of the time they’ve been in power and when it does reconvene it’s for less than two weeks before the ridiculous Party conference season recess.
All Swale drew attention to was Farage’s hypocrisy and absenteeism and your ‘touché’ response did little, if anything, to counter that…imo.

Where do you want to start?
1. lying about not punishing pensioners? ( keep your eye on this one they aint done yet. )
2. Lying about smashing the gangs as illegal migration ( sorry I forgot, they've changed it to irregular migration ) as the boat crossings grow by the week. Lets dismantle everything that was in place, before doing anything else?
3. Division, as he picks out and targets the white population for daring to criticise the government on its policies of lack of action. Suddenly , everyone condeming mass migration and moaning about it, is far right and a racist. A tiny minority decide to riot(wrongly) so he starts to change the response rules without parliament. Folks having their doors kicked in at 5 am for posting stuff he doesn't like. Yet crime like the Romanian knifing the kid, gets very little attention. Two tier policing is very real and widespread. He sits down with the cops, so don't say he doesn't have remit on this. Folks watch the Palestinian hate marches continue and he allows it to molly coddled.
4. Rayner rips up the natives first policy on new housing. Meaning native born poor working class, really are bottom of the pile now.
Again, more anger will grow and explode.
5. Asked if his loyalties sit with the UK or DAVOS, he instantly jumped for the global gang
6. Giving away billions to other countries for their green madness, whilst confiscating prime agriculture land for solar monstrosities. ,Milliband is like a man pocessed on drugs.

In 4 weeks this lot have had the country turning on its head. Sorry, but you can't have your normal whinge of TORIES/ TORIES/ TORIES,

They are in charge and its all on them , to quote your good self.
You aint seen nowt yet. The hints are there for whats coming. From income tax to national insurance to hammering the motorist. He's sidling up to Europe in many ways, that he never explains.
The way he's going, he'll be having the place running like China soon, the way he's removing rights bit by bit. His arrogance is quite frankly repulsive

He'll be gone in less than a year, the moment his plans encroach on his left masters.

[swaledale]

It is hate speech and it demonstrates your lack of understanding of you believe it can only be aimed at ‘the poor’, ‘the badly treated’ or’(a) minority’. Regrettably for you, we are in the era of offence being in the eye of a the offended - there’s enough case law around now to enlighten even a bigot like yourself, maybe not though

I thought the MK analogy might help you explain your ramblings, you mention it’s disciples often enough and even practise some of the traits of it’s foul tempered foul mouthed author

Actually we are not, despite you having obviously swallowed some of the more bizarre ramblings of the right, in an age where offence is in the eye of the beholder, some people get offended tough, unless it meets the definitions, which you quoted last time and I comprehensively explained and demonstrated that you were talking tosh.

Seeing as I did not say it can only be aimed at the poor, the badly treated or a minority, you clearly do not understand what hate speech is.

Gammon, is a term which yes can be described as an insult, but is understood to refer to angry, crimson faced middle aged or older, white blokes, generally moaning about how "things ain't what they used to be" or similar perhaps that might be you? In which case I can understand your sensitivity but it still doesn't make it hate speech. But hey if it makes you happy to think that is the case then so be it, I mean who I am to disabuse someone who is clearly rather deluded?

But then that is rather gammon like it seems to me.

There is enough case law to show your right? Really, come on then do put an actual example, as against your usual "you think that should be the case" justification for your unverifiable claims.

[swaledale]

It was a quote off her own Twitter feed you muppet,

Perhaps she's lying to her self?
COMEDY GOLD

Oh right, she was describing some of the OTHER work she has been involved in, but you or more likely your gammon mates on the internet have deliberately and selectively misinterpreted what she posted. Yes that's COMEDY GOLD, jeez you really are totally clueless.

[ramAnag]

Where do you want to start?
1. lying about not punishing pensioners? ( keep your eye on this one they aint done yet. )
2. Lying about smashing the gangs as illegal migration ( sorry I forgot, they've changed it to irregular migration ) as the boat crossings grow by the week. Lets dismantle everything that was in place, before doing anything else?
3. Division, as he picks out and targets the white population for daring to criticise the government on its policies of lack of action. Suddenly , everyone condeming mass migration and moaning about it, is far right and a racist. A tiny minority decide to riot(wrongly) so he starts to change the response rules without parliament. Folks having their doors kicked in at 5 am for posting stuff he doesn't like. Yet crime like the Romanian knifing the kid, gets very little attention. Two tier policing is very real and widespread. He sits down with the cops, so don't say he doesn't have remit on this. Folks watch the Palestinian hate marches continue and he allows it to molly coddled.
4. Rayner rips up the natives first policy on new housing. Meaning native born poor working class, really are bottom of the pile now.
Again, more anger will grow and explode.
5. Asked if his loyalties sit with the UK or DAVOS, he instantly jumped for the global gang
6. Giving away billions to other countries for their green madness, whilst confiscating prime agriculture land for solar monstrosities. ,Milliband is like a man pocessed on drugs.

In 4 weeks this lot have had the country turning on its head. Sorry, but you can't have your normal whinge of TORIES/ TORIES/ TORIES,

They are in charge and its all on them , to quote your good self.
You aint seen nowt yet. The hints are there for whats coming. From income tax to national insurance to hammering the motorist. He's sidling up to Europe in many ways, that he never explains.
The way he's going, he'll be having the place running like China soon, the way he's removing rights bit by bit. His arrogance is quite frankly repulsive

He'll be gone in less than a year, the moment his plans encroach on his left masters.

Even by your standards that is the most one eyed pile of bollux I’ve ever read on here.

‘Gone in less than a year’? Hmmm…we’ll see. Suspect that has about as much credence as all your other prophecies.

[Trickytreesreds]

Even by your standards that is the most one eyed pile of bollux I’ve ever read on here.

‘Gone in less than a year’? Hmmm…we’ll see. Suspect that has about as much credence as all your other prophecies.

which bits are wrong then?

oooooooooooooops missed one.
Pre election, we will match the Tories with a 2.5% defence budget rise. (they wanted 3%)

Now-Olivia said: "They're cutting their budget for modernising the armed forces. They're cutting their science and research budget from the armed forces.

"In a increasingly unstable global environment, that budget is pretty important - it'll be really interesting to see how senior members of the armed forces respond to this news."

Highlighting the "huge problem" this brings for Starmer, Olivia added: "Sunak said that if he was prime minister again, he would have raised defence spending to 2.5 per cent, and Keir Starmer was under huge pressure to do the same thing.

Everything we are going to do is in our manifesto, it is all costed and accounted for



Absolute lies, as politicians do, yet you refuse to acknowledge it.
THE WORST IS YET TO COME , tax tax tax

Never mind his assaults on civil liberties.

[Trickytreesreds]

Even by your standards that is the most one eyed pile of bollux I’ve ever read on here.

‘Gone in less than a year’? Hmmm…we’ll see. Suspect that has about as much credence as all your other prophecies.

Which ones?
That McGoaldrick will get a hat full in league one? Or mass immigration will cause riots and trouble across Europe?
UK will leave the EU? I think you hear and read what you want, the rest is la la laaaaaaaaaar la la not happening

[Andy_Faber]

Which ones?
That McGoaldrick will get a hat full in league one? Or mass immigration will cause riots and trouble across Europe?
UK will leave the EU? I think you hear and read what you want, the rest is la la laaaaaaaaaar la la not happening

Tricky, you aren't in danger of being banned but you are in danger of even those who give you the occasional benefit of the doubt thinking you are going through a bit of a crisis. Calm it down a bit eh? We know its tough being a Forest fan but it can't be THIS tough

[swaledale]

Even by your standards that is the most one eyed pile of bollux I’ve ever read on here.

‘Gone in less than a year’? Hmmm…we’ll see. Suspect that has about as much credence as all your other prophecies.

I think he has finally completely lost the plot, there's a lot of it about at the moment, but I guess when all ones beliefs in conspiracy theories and fake news are shown to be utter cobblers, the only thing to do is double down?

Tbh I've long since given up reading the bilge he posts, I can gather the same tripe from browsing the internet, where its clear a significant minority of deluded losers like Thicky faithfully repeat the rubbish their puppet masters spew forth. I mean its not as if a half way sentient person couldn't do a little bit of research and clearly see that most of this is utterly false.

What I find rather funny is the belief is that right wing grifters, liars who are by definition members of the "elite" they claim to be against are considerd to be the people speaking the "truth" by these poor desperate souls.