Election Year or Fear!

[Geoff Parkstone]

Swale: "now there will be 2 Leaders of Western "democracies" with criminal convictions/charges welcome to the age where being a criminal and openly lying is no bar to success."

I didn't know Starmer had convictions!

[Trickytreesreds]

Swale: "now there will be 2 Leaders of Western "democracies" with criminal convictions/charges welcome to the age where being a criminal and openly lying is no bar to success."

I didn't know Starmer had convictions!

I don't think he's got a conviction for anything that makes any sense

[macstheman]

Michael Bentine was right, 'It's a Square World' and the Yanks have just confirmed it!
Fartism shall rule!

[Geoff Parkstone]

And they were eating our pets, eh, Tricky

[ramAnag]

Bang on about me all you want mate. 6 in 10 yanks had it at the front of their gripes.

Here's a test for you

Please look up the black and hispanic vote decline for the democrats and the switch to the Republicans.
Why?
The very people often at the poorer state of the economy rebelled,
Give it a go, you can do do it, I believe in you.

So, in the space of a couple of hours you’ve gone from 60% of U.S. voters thought immigration was ‘very important’ to it being ‘at the front of their gripes’…because it suits your narrative.

No one is disputing that the question of immigration is ‘very important’…and that’s not just the case in the U.S, however Trumps rallying cry throughout this election has been, ‘are you better off now than you were five years ago’…and that, imo, has been where this election has been won and lost.

Have you seen Trump’s famous wall? I have, or at least a large chunk of it between Arizona and Mexico. It’s a joke…let’s just say the East Germans of the early 1960’s could have taught him a thing or two.

[Ramshank72]

His slogan says, "TRUMP WILL FIX IT".
I found that funny, it's not a slogan that would work here.

[MadAmster]

His slogan says, "TRUMP WILL FIX IT".
I found that funny, it's not a slogan that would work here.

Well, they say he was a frequent guest on Jeffrey Epstein's island...

[ramAnag]

Well, they say he was a frequent guest on Jeffrey Epstein's island...

Maybe a Presidential pardon for Ghislaine Maxwell might be an addition to your list, MA…and I’m not sure if I’m joking.

[Trickytreesreds]

And they were eating our pets, eh, Tricky

must have been. Its a catastrophe

[Trickytreesreds]

So, in the space of a couple of hours you’ve gone from 60% of U.S. voters thought immigration was ‘very important’ to it being ‘at the front of their gripes’…because it suits your narrative.

No one is disputing that the question of immigration is ‘very important’…and that’s not just the case in the U.S, however Trumps rallying cry throughout this election has been, ‘are you better off now than you were five years ago’…and that, imo, has been where this election has been won and lost.

Have you seen Trump’s famous wall? I have, or at least a large chunk of it between Arizona and Mexico. It’s a joke…let’s just say the East Germans of the early 1960’s could have taught him a thing or two.

DEAR OH DEAR, STOP CRYING.
Put the immigration problem and your economic cries together. You'll get there. It is no coincidence that the hispanics went from 60% support for the Democrats, to only 5%. They were complaining about their jobs, lack of pay, and the fact the low paid were the ones to suffer, with the budget getting sucked up by the local authoritys dealing with all the immigrants bringing nothing to the system.
I'll be generous and leave it at 10 Million. Think about that. 10 Million in 3 years. If it costs us £41 K per illegal, then America is losing over 400 billion pounds out the public purse alone. That has a knock on effect.
Your opinion on it, is the same as it is here, You don't think its a problem, but clearly lots of people do.
If refugees/immigrants aren't a problem, perhaps you would consider housing one?

[Trickytreesreds]

Well, they say he was a frequent guest on Jeffrey Epstein's island...

Funnily enough, the Harris supporters have more than their fair share of dodgy characters. Perhaps P Diddys antics will be worrying a few right now.

[MadAmster]

Maybe a Presidential pardon for Ghislaine Maxwell might be an addition to your list, MA…and I’m not sure if I’m joking.

That's just reminded me of something I forgot to mention, namely, those jailed for Jan 6th offences at the Capitol will get Presidential Pardons.

[Trickytreesreds]

I'm sure if any of you have been watching the news debates on US tv, the reason is clear.
Yes its racism lol

The white majority have done this purely out of racism, ignoring the previously mentioned ethnic voting shift away from the Dems.
You couldn't make it up,

[ramAnag]

I'm sure if any of you have been watching the news debates on US tv, the reason is clear.
Yes its racism lol

The white majority have done this purely out of racism, ignoring the previously mentioned ethnic voting shift away from the Dems.
You couldn't make it up,

…and yet you have. To the best of my knowledge, one commentator - David Axelrod - has suggested that not just racism but s*xism too ‘played a part’ in Harris’ defeat.

It’s perfectly possible, as much of the U.S. is quite regressive in its attitude to race and gender…however there is a difference between one commentator referring to racism and s*xism ‘playing a part’ (he also praised the Trump campaign) and what you have implied.

I’m also fairly sure of one other thing…you are not going to see disappointed Harris supporters and Democrats behaving in the way Trump supporters did in Washington after he’d lost last time around.

[Andy_Faber]

Thank God for peace on this forum if nowhere else that Trump won the popular vote as well as the electoral college