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  • Originally posted by MadAmster View Post
    Around 24 hours after video emerged showing that Israel had lied through their back teeth about the ambulances not having headlights and/or flashing lights on you quote Israel to corroborate your thoughts. They have murdered paramedics going to assist people in trouble. There are even some uncorroborated reports that some of the dead ambulance personnel had their hands tied and had been shot execution style. Accepting Israeli "explanations" as bona fide without exhaustive research is probably not the wisest thing to do.

    The 2 MPs? They had been invited by an organisation, I forget which one, and had accepted that invitation. Not very clever of them to check that they would be cleared by Israeli border control prior to leaving. I hope they will have learned from this, what should be, chastening experience. My own thoughts, based on what we have been told, is that I'm not surprised they were refused entry. They were there to speak to Arabs in the "occupied West Bank". They would have been told some horrific stories. That Israel wouldn't want those stories out in the open is no surprise.
    The MPs in question were naive at best and, as curious as it sounds, seem to have gone on a bit of a jolly. It doesn't seem like an officially authorized visit otherwise entry would have been pre-cleared (or not) through diplomatic channels.

    I believe their expense claims should be denied. By all means try to visit Gaza if that floats your boat, but don't expect me to pay for it when you've ****ed the planning up.

    Sure, Israel may have things that they don't wish people to see, as would any country engaged in a "war" - This time last year how many MPs do you think Putin would have let into Donetsk on an unofficial visit knowing they were going to use the visit to spout pro Ukrainian propaganda?

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    • Originally posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
      The MPs in question were naive at best and, as curious as it sounds, seem to have gone on a bit of a jolly. It doesn't seem like an officially authorized visit otherwise entry would have been pre-cleared (or not) through diplomatic channels.

      I believe their expense claims should be denied. By all means try to visit Gaza if that floats your boat, but don't expect me to pay for it when you've ****ed the planning up.

      Sure, Israel may have things that they don't wish people to see, as would any country engaged in a "war" - This time last year how many MPs do you think Putin would have let into Donetsk on an unofficial visit knowing they were going to use the visit to spout pro Ukrainian propaganda?
      Agreed, a ?jolly? if such things can exist in such circumstances. Certainly, it would appear, not HMG business and, I suspect, a pro Palestine/anti Israel intention mind

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      • Originally posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
        because I NEVER SAID THAT, again you are doing it.
        You are assuming things, that were never said.

        I said, go on a free palestine march where you WILL, meet loads who think like you, about the right of politics and hurl their bile out in public.



        stop crying

        No apology for something I haven't done.
        Honestly…how can you say that? That isn’t just a mistake it’s an outright lie which you’ve now compounded by confusing objecting to untruths with ‘crying’. Either that or you (and AF) are engaging in some sort of bizarre form of denial.

        You said exactly what MA and I have quoted you as saying. Read post 3017 yourself…I know it’s semiliterate but it’s also plain for all to see what you accused Sith of.
        Seems to have become a tactic of those on the Right. You’ve done it to me before by accusing me, totally falsely, of being anti British. Others made you apologise then. Time you did so again to Sith now. There will always be disagreements on forums. That is the point of them, but there can be no justification for outright falsehoods as our moderator should, imo, also recognise.
        Last edited by ramAnag; 07-04-2025, 11:11 AM.

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        • Originally posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
          The MPs in question were naive at best and, as curious as it sounds, seem to have gone on a bit of a jolly. It doesn't seem like an officially authorized visit otherwise entry would have been pre-cleared (or not) through diplomatic channels.

          I believe their expense claims should be denied. By all means try to visit Gaza if that floats your boat, but don't expect me to pay for it when you've ****ed the planning up.

          Sure, Israel may have things that they don't wish people to see, as would any country engaged in a "war" - This time last year how many MPs do you think Putin would have let into Donetsk on an unofficial visit knowing they were going to use the visit to spout pro Ukrainian propaganda?
          It seems they were invited by some organisation or other. I take that to mean that the organisation concerned should be liable for the costs of the visit. Not the 2 MPs, not the UK taxpayer.

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          • Aye, google cc confirms this. Invited by CAABU an Arabic interest group who defined the visit as a parliamentary delegation which it clearly was not.

            Badenoch approves the deportation as, for what it's worth, on balance do I. If the British Fascist movement had invited Joseph Goebbels to visit the East End in 1941 how likely would it have been that we let him in?

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            • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ5QBMl5K1I

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              • My favourite animal, I?m always on their side

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                • Here's a message to US voters, next election, don't draw a dick pic on the ballot paper, remember, he got in last time.

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                  • Looks like DJT has created a tariff wall around the USA. As the Mexican President told him, there's 7 billion people outside his tariff wall and they can all stop buying American goods and services. Not all of it can happen quickly. We need a bunch of new satellites to replace Starlink, for instance. We need technology firms to create non-US ICT stuff for socials etc to get rid of the reliance on Microsoft, Google, Apple etc.

                    There's loads of non-US phone suppliers, car manufacturers etc. Almost in a heartbeat, the 7 (or is it 8?) billion non- Americans can hammer the US economy into the ground and it will be down to one man. POTUS. The orang utan who makes Geroge W look intelligent and Nixon honest. The world should call the orange man's bluff, the bullying stops here. The stupidity of saying the world has tariffs against the US when the reality is that the world is better at selling stuff to the US than the US is selling to the world. Hence the trade deficits with just about everybody.

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                    • I notice big mouth Farage has been very quiet recently. I mean what with his hero's Putin and Trump clearly showing that they are deranged power made ****s, I guess its not surprising!

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                      • Originally posted by swaledale View Post
                        I notice big mouth Farage has been very quiet recently. I mean what with his hero's Putin and Trump clearly showing that they are deranged power made ****s, I guess its not surprising!
                        Clearly you don't watch BBC Breakfast, he was interviewed about two hours ago

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                        • Thank you, you orang utan fartface. Tariffs on the EU, lower ones on the UK. That caused the GBP to be less affected than the Euro. Upshot of that is my UK OAP this month was 4% down on previous months.

                          Next months should be higher than this as that's when the 4% OAP increase gets paid out. 4% increase leaving me with the same number of Euros as I got per month this past year. Fartface has wiped out my increase before I get it.

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                          • Originally posted by MadAmster View Post
                            Actually, you posted

                            Whatever you may or may not believe TTR, Sith's take on the meaning of what you posted is far closer to the meaning of your post than you appear to think. It may be that you meant something else, maybe something softer in approach, but that is not what you actually posted.

                            Your own words, quoted verbatim.
                            Rubbish, those marches are backed by the socialists/ the communists/ the Greens all using it as a platform for anti capitalist/ right wing ideology and to attack individuals THEY don't like. Hence my comparison dor Sith to join one, He'll find loads of folks in there spouting the same theme as him. In fact they'll hand out an anti politician or Trump placaard. Whether he thinks my sentence, was accusing him of being anti Jew, was made up entirely in his head


                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxxQRS4G2I0&t=907s politcal activism infiltrators
                            Last edited by Trickytreesreds; 10-04-2025, 09:50 AM.

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                            • The Labour party do it again.

                              1. They cowardly disrespect every politician in West minster, by waiting till 45 mins from the end of the session and Easter break to say, they will not be carrying out any grooming gang enquiry

                              2. They forfeit the right of the 10's of thousands of victims of justice, by leaving all those behind the grooming and those who closed their eyes to it, free.

                              Fun fact, more people have been prosecuted in Rotherham for howling about these crimes on social media, than have actually been prosecuted for it.

                              Its a white wash, to save Labour councils from further embarrassment, protect individuals in positions of power, to suck up to the Muslim vote, by not exposing more Pakistani men and encouraging voters to turn to Islamic independent candidates.

                              To think, how these all howled when Johnson closed down Parliament early, to close off the left delaying tactics. Including a couple in here as well.

                              Tories/Labour, not a fag paper between them.
                              Weak, corrupt, and as dodgy as **** where, screwing over British natives is concerned.

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                              • Originally posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
                                Rubbish, those marches are backed by the socialists/ the communists/ the Greens all using it as a platform for anti capitalist/ right wing ideology and to attack individuals THEY don't like. Hence my comparison dor Sith to join one, He'll find loads of folks in there spouting the same theme as him. In fact they'll hand out an anti politician or Trump placaard. Whether he thinks my sentence, was accusing him of being anti Jew, was made up entirely in his head


                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxxQRS4G2I0&t=907s politcal activism infiltrators
                                Seriously how many people do you need to tell you that's what you said? Or is it in their heads too?

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