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  • Originally posted by SithHappens View Post
    Farage says anyone working for Durham council who works on climate change or diversity, equity and inclusion should be looking for new jobs

    To ignore climate change is happening is one thing but even reform voters must be appalled he's targeting those protected under the equality act, he's even said he would get rid of the equality act 2010

    Just don't get this
    It’s madness, Sith. In many ways, imo, we’ve seen Democracy at its worst over the last ten months or so.
    Last July, in what was at least partially a protest vote against Tory incompetence and corruption, Labour won a huge though admittedly disproportionate majority.
    Ten months on and the same electorate decides to keep on ‘smacking’ the Tories while handing the reins of local, largely rural, power to the Right.
    In the meantime the U.S. re elects the closest thing to a western dictator I can ever remember and now watches in horror as, once in power, his manufactured popularity plummets in a way that must make Starmer feel truly wanted.

    Tbh I do think we’ve been here before in terms of protest votes and I doubt if it’ll be symptomatic of any future General Election result. I’ve just seen Farage on TV and he already makes no sense at all, but it’s a mess and the upsurge in Reform run councils along with the relationship between Farage and Trump seems likely to only seek to undermine our elected Government. Throw the ramifications of Brexit into the mix, in the context of a freshly fractured Europe, and sensible folk have to be concerned while those on the Right relish the potential chaos.

    Anyway, for the next few hours, forget it. COYR!
    Last edited by ramAnag; 03-05-2025, 08:24 AM.

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    • Originally posted by ramAnag View Post
      It’s madness, Sith. In many ways, imo, we’ve seen Democracy at its worst over the last ten months or so.
      Last July, in what was at least partially a protest vote against Tory incompetence and corruption, Labour won a huge though admittedly disproportionate majority.
      Ten months on and the same electorate decides to keep on ‘smacking’ the Tories while handing the reins of local, largely rural, power to the Right.
      In the meantime the U.S. re elects the closest thing to a western dictator I can ever remember and now watches in horror as, once in power, his manufactured popularity plummets in a way that must make Starmer feel truly wanted.

      Tbh I do think we’ve been here before in terms of protest votes and I doubt if it’ll be symptomatic of any future General Election result. I’ve just seen Farage on TV and he already makes no sense at all, but it’s a mess and the upsurge in Reform run councils along with the relationship between Farage and Trump seems likely to only seek to undermine our elected Government. Throw the ramifications of Brexit into the mix, in the context of a freshly fractured Europe, and sensible folk have to be concerned while those on the Right relish the potential chaos.

      Anyway, for the next few hours, forget it. COYR!
      My prediction is that given the poor quality of idiots that they have as candidates, it will all fall apart very quickly! As it did with the only council UKIP took control of in Kent. Farage has absolutely no clue about governance, but neither has that utter nonentity they ahve elected mayor in Lincs, it will be fun watching them cock everything up, though not so much fun for the people working for them. However, Uk government and law is somewhat less susceptible to being bypassed and ignored as has happened (to date) in the US.

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      • Originally posted by Andy_Faber View Post
        That bloody Lincolnshire Mayor, typical angry ruddy faced gammon! Likewise the Runcorn MP! They?re all the bloody same!
        Well the Lincolnshire mayor is gormless, talentless, opportunistic self serving idiot who was ousted as Tory MP for a Leeds constituency who will now actually have to do some governing, can't wait to see the mess she makes of that!

        The MP for Runcorn is another dumb ex Tory who fortunately doesn't have to do anything other than sit in the House of Commons and follow Farage's orders. I do expect however that she will find that an issue and either cross the floor back to the Tories or be an independent and fade into obscurity.

        I'm pleased to see these utter useless ****s elected, they will **** up pretty soon, fall out with each other and basically demonstrate their inability to run a piss up in a brewery. bring it on.

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        • Originally posted by SithHappens View Post
          Farage says anyone working for Durham council who works on climate change or diversity, equity and inclusion should be looking for new jobs

          To ignore climate change is happening is one thing but even reform voters must be appalled he's targeting those protected under the equality act, he's even said he would get rid of the equality act 2010

          Just don't get this
          IMO in general terms they are being a bit silly on climate change but so are Labour (with national policy) and Regretably Milliband would be unpopular whatever he proposed, he?s just that sort of fellah

          Filtering out some of the bizarre DEI roles will be a popular move with the plebs, I spent a lot of time in the dark days of the 2010s sticking up for it but If he?s talking about removing quotas, and there appear to be a lot around, fair enough

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          • Originally posted by Andy_Faber View Post
            IMO in general terms they are being a bit silly on climate change but so are Labour (with national policy) and Regretably Milliband would be unpopular whatever he proposed, he?s just that sort of fellah

            Filtering out some of the bizarre DEI roles will be a popular move with the plebs, I spent a lot of time in the dark days of the 2010s sticking up for it but If he?s talking about removing quotas, and there appear to be a lot around, fair enough
            If you have any faith that Farage knows what he is doing, then your judgement is very questionable!

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            • Originally posted by Andy_Faber View Post
              Give the guy a break Tricky. If he can?t work out what a woman is, there?s no chance he can determine who?s a danger to society
              Because of course that's the most important topic at the moment? Mm Its funny when you seem to be easily distracted by culture war *******s like this. Too much swallowing the pap that's served up by most of the media disguised as news!

              Still waiting for you to explain why you think there is such a thing as "good bullying" and why you think that operating without due process and regard to the law is acceptable with regard to actions on DEI, government administration and immigration. Guess I'll be waiting a long time it seems.

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              • Originally posted by Andy_Faber View Post
                Give the guy a break Tricky. If he can?t work out what a woman is, there?s no chance he can determine who?s a danger to society
                One problem with what our dim red friend is claiming, it wasn't one man, it was a deportation flight. Given Labour seem to ahve been deporting people (16,000 and counting) since taking power without having flights blocked, maybe it was the incompetence of the then Tory government who didn't ensure that all the legal issues regarding those to be deported were in place, rather than blaming the lawyers who quite rightly were challenging illegal actions. After all it shouldn't be beyond the competence of government to achieve what they want to do in accordance with the law.

                But then I guess for some people, that doesn't matter, as long of course its not them, their relatives or friends who are suffering the consequences. I mean FFS! lets get the facts straight when making criticisms.

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                • Originally posted by swaledale View Post
                  our dim red friend.
                  I recall that a few weeks or so ago you stated that you?d never mention TTR again. Your obsession betrays you

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                  • Originally posted by swaledale View Post
                    My prediction is that given the poor quality of idiots that they have as candidates, it will all fall apart very quickly! As it did with the only council UKIP took control of in Kent. Farage has absolutely no clue about governance, but neither has that utter nonentity they ahve elected mayor in Lincs, it will be fun watching them cock everything up, though not so much fun for the people working for them. However, Uk government and law is somewhat less susceptible to being bypassed and ignored as has happened (to date) in the US.
                    your prediction was a year ago, that REFORM was a phase and would never make headways anywhere. Well in spite your expert knowledge, they continue to do so and even lead the national polls. Pick my lottery numbers, so I know which numbers to avoid

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                    • Originally posted by swaledale View Post
                      Because of course that's the most important topic at the moment? Mm Its funny when you seem to be easily distracted by culture war *******s like this. Too much swallowing the pap that's served up by most of the media disguised as news!

                      Still waiting for you to explain why you think there is such a thing as "good bullying" and why you think that operating without due process and regard to the law is acceptable with regard to actions on DEI, government administration and immigration. Guess I'll be waiting a long time it seems.
                      oh behave, it was the Labour party pushing these culture wars and Starmer was scared to upset them Even though folks had generally had enough of all the bull ****. The courts had to step in to put it right. Made himself look a right berk by refusing to answer the question fairly, and a foreign secretary who seems to believe men can grow a cervix? Either scared witless by the morons within, or just plain deranged themselves.

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                      • Originally posted by swaledale View Post
                        One problem with what our dim red friend is claiming, it wasn't one man, it was a deportation flight. Given Labour seem to ahve been deporting people (16,000 and counting) since taking power without having flights blocked, maybe it was the incompetence of the then Tory government who didn't ensure that all the legal issues regarding those to be deported were in place, rather than blaming the lawyers who quite rightly were challenging illegal actions. After all it shouldn't be beyond the competence of government to achieve what they want to do in accordance with the law.

                        But then I guess for some people, that doesn't matter, as long of course its not them, their relatives or friends who are suffering the consequences. I mean FFS! lets get the facts straight when making criticisms.
                        lol, you do realise, that those deported, are either volunteers or serious criminals, that we can send back to their own country now(eg Albania). I suggest you read the daily reports of violent, *** offenders, drug lords who they still cannot touch due to the ECHR. The one who won his case, because his son, would n't be able to get the chicken nuggets he loves, was beyond the stars and a yard stick as how ****ed up the judiciary is. (before you say it, Starmer was an active member in making these things law in the 2000's when he was a barrister). Now he has the cheek to say this nonsense must stop.

                        For you knowledge from full fact checker-
                        We don’t know how many of the 18,987 returns under Labour up to 31 January 2025, or the 24,103 returns under Labour up to 22 March 2025, were officially classified as “deportations”.

                        But we do know that enforced returns—the category of returns that includes deportations—only accounted for a minority of the total, 27% and 26% respectively.
                        Last edited by Trickytreesreds; 04-05-2025, 05:09 AM.

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                        • Originally posted by swaledale View Post
                          Well the Lincolnshire mayor is gormless, talentless, opportunistic self serving idiot who was ousted as Tory MP for a Leeds constituency who will now actually have to do some governing, can't wait to see the mess she makes of that!

                          The MP for Runcorn is another dumb ex Tory who fortunately doesn't have to do anything other than sit in the House of Commons and follow Farage's orders. I do expect however that she will find that an issue and either cross the floor back to the Tories or be an independent and fade into obscurity.

                          I'm pleased to see these utter useless ****s elected, they will **** up pretty soon, fall out with each other and basically demonstrate their inability to run a piss up in a brewery. bring it on.
                          Jenkyns is awful. I know her comments about housing immigrants in tents will be popular with a lot of people, despite it being cruel. Then her pathetic attempt at joking about another candidates south African accent was just painful to watch.

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                          • Yusuf says hiring should be 'colour blind' and best person for the job.

                            I 100% agree, and I'm no fan of quotas. There does need to be policies in place though and employers held to account if people are overlooked because of their nationality, colour of their skin, religion, disabilities etc etc

                            Much as many would like to believe discrimination won't happen, it 100% does and removing protection potentially will only make this worse.

                            Strip away those protections and employers may see it as consent to pass on the best candidate who just happens to have a medical condition through fear they might require adjustments in the work place.

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                            • Originally posted by SithHappens View Post
                              Yusuf says hiring should be 'colour blind' and best person for the job.

                              I 100% agree, and I'm no fan of quotas. There does need to be policies in place though and employers held to account if people are overlooked because of their nationality, colour of their skin, religion, disabilities etc etc

                              Much as many would like to believe discrimination won't happen, it 100% does and removing protection potentially will only make this worse.

                              Strip away those protections and employers may see it as consent to pass on the best candidate who just happens to have a medical condition through fear they might require adjustments in the work place.
                              ?.and therein lies (one of) the problem. Historical prejudice (and being a junior member of recruitment panels amongst rampant bigots in the past I have heard some outrageous stuff) gave way some time in the 2010s to the madness of minority-favouring quotas without there ever being a period when there was a fair and equitable middle ground. I think only recently has this started to be exposed/realised.

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                              • Originally posted by Andy_Faber View Post
                                ?.and therein lies (one of) the problem. Historical prejudice (and being a junior member of recruitment panels amongst rampant bigots in the past I have heard some outrageous stuff) gave way some time in the 2010s to the madness of minority-favouring quotas without there ever being a period when there was a fair and equitable middle ground. I think only recently has this started to be exposed/realised.
                                I don't really know how you do it. How does a candidate prove they have been discriminated against? Easier if you are on a role and suffer from it.

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