Election Year or Fear!

[Geoff Parkstone]

As are you in your stalwart rear gunnery

[ramAnag]

As are you in your stalwart rear gunnery

Lol…said our moderator’s rear gunner.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Someone has to defend the mod in the face of prolonged attack on multiple fronts 😄

[ramAnag]

Someone has to defend the mod in the face of prolonged attack on multiple fronts ��

[swaledale]

I can?t go beyond 1st May on my phone so I?ll give you the April ones as I can?t see the content but re the others you just highlight how your desperation to defend Swales bile and get at me leads to rush out answers and, deplorable when you would rebuke pupils for the same, not read the exam question properly. I stated, and I?ll quote, that mentioning Swale was ? With the exception of exposing swales inability to be true to his edict that he would forever ignore TTR (which was pointed out by others as well as me)?. Your attempt to hide that fact iin an attempt to validate your response was either clumsy, careless or desperate, I?m not sure which. Meanwhile, you remain silent as Swale pops up and berates my every comment. Two tier Ramanag.

In respect of my supposed obsession with TTR, it was quite obvious that my mention of him was in connection with your posts where you had quoted him and I was referring to that. If your unable to see that, that's your problem not mine.

The only other time I mention him, is to sympathise with RA or others who have made a response and realised they had wasted their time having a logical argument with the guy. Oh and to marvel at GP's rather dumb question as to how I knew what TTR posted if I didn't read them, when two posts previously you had quoted TTR and thus made his posts visible.

In respect of your claim that you don't respond to my posts, as RA has pointed out, you clearly do. Though admittedly your current tactic is to post a challenge to something I've posted, then disappear and make no further comment when I respond to that challenge and expose your post as being inaccurate, false, or based on anecdotal evidence which as your infamous comment on "too many" ethnic minorities in the media not reflecting your world is hardly a good yardstick to form an opinion on.

My comment re Liverpool, was based on your not too subtle reiteration and agreement of right wing views (including TTR's)being expressed about why the Police revealed the ethnicity of the alleged perpetrator on this occasion and then without consideration to the context or the usual practice of all Police forces commenting that the "acid test" is what happens when an person with a different ethnic background is involved. Frankly if your unable to understand that such a comment is both disingenuous and demonstrates a simplistic view of these matters, then that's your problem not mine.

All in all you don't like having your views challenged, you dislike your anecdotal evidence being challenged and you are not happy to be described as having right wing views, despite the fact that there is ample evidence from the opinions that you post that I was actually being too balanced to describe you as generally centrist with a right wing leaning. It seems your actually more right wing than I thought, but attempt to hide it with your claim to be a reasonable "man in the street" with views that the majority of people in the UK (a claim you often make wit no evidence to support it).

In effect you essentially hold the same views as TTR but express them in a more subtle manner.

Oh and yes I do realise I've mentioned TTR several times in this post, silly me, still it will give you an opportunity to post some something on the matter and feel as if you have "exposed" me again! Wowie zowie how clever you are.

[swaledale]

Someone has to defend the mod in the face of prolonged attack on multiple fronts ��

Attack? What *******s, if he pops up and makes a claim thats untrue or challenges something I've posted then I respond. Unfortunately he seems unable or unwilling to justify a number of claims he has made or opinions he has posted.

I'm still waiting for him to explain what "good bullying" is and why there might in his opinion be some good in what Trumps doing. To post that after taking offence when I described his views as sometimes leaning to the right takes either a high level of double think as seems likely given his comment on the Liverpool incident a lack of self awareness.

[SithHappens]

Well this aged well




Important voice for young men apparently

[Trickytreesreds]

So have we established that Swale is actually a Lord? #

The Nazi jibes come thick and fast from these Labour arseholes. But I'd like to thank him for swelling the working class numbers jumping to Reform.

This is exactly the sort of ****, that the public has had enough off. Starmer should sack him immediately or resign. Of course, he won't do either because he is a jelly fish.
This arsehole put Lucy Connoly in jail(salivating on his mates far right false accusations) and blocked her release.
Starmer's best mate from their barrister days and all the little immigration cases falling out the cupboard. Beggum/ Chagos asylum/ Sri Lankans/ Gerry Adams

Had this been Farage or Badenoch, the howls in here would have been heard in the Shetlands. But no, silence.

Shameful behaviour and a testament to the usual Left-wing tactics, to shut folks up and attempt to control by bullying.

Parties over commies, the public has woken up and the red wall continues to fall. Keep it up please.

https://www.gbnews.com/politics/keir-starmer-lord-hermer-lucy-connolly

PS, I see smashing the gangs is going well. Useless doesn't even cover this government

[SithHappens]

I personally think it was wrong to hand out such a punishment to her. I do think there has to be accountability though if you say such vile hate filled racist comments.

Surely some sort of educational course , like footballers guilty of racist comments would be sufficient.

It's a case of deciding what prison is for, is it punishment or rehabilitation. yes I know it's a combination of both but I'd have thought being forced to do some course and face people admitting what horrible thoughts you have would be a punishment in itself.

[ramAnag]

I personally think it was wrong to hand out such a punishment to her. I do think there has to be accountability though if you say such vile hate filled racist comments.

Surely some sort of educational course , like footballers guilty of racist comments would be sufficient.

It's a case of deciding what prison is for, is it punishment or rehabilitation. yes I know it's a combination of both but I'd have thought being forced to do some course and face people admitting what horrible thoughts you have would be a punishment in itself.

Hang on Sith. You always come across as a reasonable and intelligent poster so I recognise your dilemma but let’s consider three factors here.
Who is Lucy Connolly? The wife of a Tory Councillor.
When did she say what she said? In the immediate aftermath of the dreadful Southport tragedy.
What did she say? ‘Set fire to all the f*****g hotels full of the b******s (asylum seekers) for all I care.’

Imo, in the light of such incitement to violence, arson and murder she deserves to be in prison.

Consider the consequences of what she did…half witted far right bullies actually did attempt to do what she advocated.

Had you or I, some years earlier, used a forum like this to encourage people to harm Mel Morris or damage/set fire to his property I suspect we’d have faced the full force of the law and possible imprisonment. Rightly so too, imo.

[SithHappens]

Hang on Sith. You always come across as a reasonable and intelligent poster so I recognise your dilemma but let’s consider three factors here.
Who is Lucy Connolly? The wife of a Tory Councillor.
When did she say what she said? In the immediate aftermath of the dreadful Southport tragedy.
What did she say? ‘Set fire to all the f*****g hotels full of the b******s (asylum seekers) for all I care.’

Imo, in the light of such incitement to violence and murder she deserves to be in prison.

Consider the consequences of what she did…half witted far right bullies actually did attempt to do what she advocated.

Had you or I, some years earlier, used a forum like this to encourage people to harm Mel Morris or damage/set fire to his property I suspect we’d have faced the full force of the law and possible imprisonment. Rightly so too, imo.

I'm certainly not advocating she goes unpunished.

I'm just not convinced imprisonment for such a long time is the answer. Perhaps having to face those she was advocating such actions against would have been a better punishment.

It was a vile horrible thing to say but if we look at the flames being fanned over Southport, this was not from a quickly deleted post on X, I believe the culpability lies elsewhere but those guilty maybe chose their words more wisely but we're far more incendiary.

[Andy_Faber]

I'm certainly not advocating she goes unpunished.

I'm just not convinced imprisonment for such a long time is the answer. Perhaps having to face those she was advocating such actions against would have been a better punishment.

It was a vile horrible thing to say but if we look at the flames being fanned over Southport, this was not from a quickly deleted post on X, I believe the culpability lies elsewhere but those guilty maybe chose their words more wisely but we're far more incendiary.

Agreed and the unintended consequence of the IMO significant overpunishment is that she?s become(ing) a martyr for ?the cause? in a way none of the others convicted at the same time have done.

[ramAnag]

Agreed and the unintended consequence of the IMO significant overpunishment is that she?s become(ing) a martyr for ?the cause? in a way none of the others convicted at the same time have done.

I see your point and accept that there well be some who are more guilty but?a ?martyr for the cause?? Only to imbeciles and extremist bullies who find it acceptable to advocate arson and murder.

She suggested that it would be acceptable to go out and burn people to death. Think about that.

[Trickytreesreds]

I see your point and accept that there well be some who are more guilty but?a ?martyr for the cause?? Only to imbeciles and extremist bullies who find it acceptable to advocate arson and murder.

She suggested that it would be acceptable to go out and burn people to death. Think about that.

You really are something else.

Lets recap shall we?

This was a woman with not even a parking ticket against her.
She posted something in anger without thinking, bearing in mind she had lost a child herself.
She went for a walk, thought about it and came home and deleted it. She even posted an apology online telling people not to do anything nasty.
The police come knocking, she went voluntarily and cooperated.
She pleaded guilty after being fast tracked into court(Starmer justice), yet was slapped with a 2.5 year jail sentence.

Meanwhile, the court system, has Hew Edwards walking free and the Manchester airport thugs. An immigrant child rapist gets let off, as his culture meant it wouldn't register in his head as a crime. Another immigrant rapist of 23 years of age is let off, because his brain isn't "fully developed" according to a judge

This tosser who calls Reform Nazis, has history of decisions going against UK interests. HE FEELS THE POOR WOMAN HASN'T ENDURED ENOUGH, WHILST CRIMINALS ARE BEING RELEASED EARLY. Yet YOU, feel all this is just. You have a very warped idea of what is justice Mr. Lets hope your family doesn't fall foul to it.

Disgraceful

PS you showed yourself up, by introducing a Tory connection into it Since when has that had anything to do with being convicted?

[ramAnag]

You really are something else.

Lets recap shall we?

This was a woman with not even a parking ticket against her.
She posted something in anger without thinking, bearing in mind she had lost a child herself.
She went for a walk, thought about it and came home and deleted it. She even posted an apology online telling people not to do anything nasty.
The police come knocking, she went voluntarily and cooperated.
She pleaded guilty after being fast tracked into court(Starmer justice), yet was slapped with a 2.5 year jail sentence.

Meanwhile, the court system, has Hew Edwards walking free and the Manchester airport thugs. An immigrant child rapist gets let off, as his culture meant it wouldn't register in his head as a crime. Another immigrant rapist of 23 years of age is let off, because his brain isn't "fully developed" according to a judge

This tosser who calls Reform Nazis, has history of decisions going against UK interests. HE FEELS THE POOR WOMAN HASN'T ENDURED ENOUGH, WHILST CRIMINALS ARE BEING RELEASED EARLY. Yet YOU, feel all this is just. You have a very warped idea of what is justice Mr. Lets hope your family doesn't fall foul to it.

Disgraceful

PS you showed yourself up, by introducing a Tory connection into it Since when has that had anything to do with being convicted?

For the purposes of clarification only.

It wasn’t a ‘Tory connection’, could have been any councillor’s wife but as such she is, one imagines, a woman of some ‘standing within the community’ and she actually advocated people indulging in arson with the aim of killing people in a burning building.

You have no more idea than I do as to why she deleted it so quickly. Might just as well have been because someone with a bit more sense warned her of the possible consequences of inciting the incidents that were to take place.

Either way it was a despicable thing to do, I have no sympathy and, as you wish to make it personal, I hope your family never find themselves alone and unwanted in a foreign country at the mercy of those bullies you consistently seek to defend.