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  • Tough one. I think my parents reason for voting leave were totally flawed but even so they had as much right as me to vote.

    I'm not keen on judging people's capabilities to do something on their old age but I get what you mean.

    We will all get old, hopefully, I hope my view is as relevant at 80 as it is today.

    But yeah annoy Farage, maybe starmer should grant those seeking asylum the vote..Just to see farages head explode.

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    • Originally posted by SithHappens View Post
      Tough one. I think my parents reason for voting leave were totally flawed but even so they had as much right as me to vote.

      I'm not keen on judging people's capabilities to do something on their old age but I get what you mean.

      We will all get old, hopefully, I hope my view is as relevant at 80 as it is today.

      But yeah annoy Farage, maybe starmer should grant those seeking asylum the vote..Just to see farages head explode.
      I didn’t actually mean ‘older’ quite like that, I just meant older than 16, but now you mention it, that too is a good point.
      I’m sure there are many 16-17 year olds who won’t have a clue what they’re voting for or are motivated only by self interest but, imo, we already have plenty of them who happen to be somewhere between 18 and the end of the road.

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      • Sith - you ask "who will this benefit politically?". I think the answer would be the party introducing it. If they didn't think it wouldn't increase their share of the vote, it would never have got past first base. It's all about self interest and nothing to do with democracy.

        Wait till Farage gets in and introduces a rule that everyone gets 1 vote for each year of their age.

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        • There's some folk saying 16 and 17 year olds aren't experienced/intelligent enough to warrant having a vote. I've seen others saying the over 80s are all senile and advocating a maximum voting age.

          Personally, I think the % of people "not worthy of a vote" is pretty much the same at whatever age level.

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          • Pure desperation on a Labour party, falling apart at the seams

            No policies going anywhere, manifesto and total bag of lies, stabbing each other in the back, no control over anything economically. No control over the borders and now implicated as big an accessory as the Tories over the Afghan cover up. The man has now allowed the worlds worst airline back here, without even getting his returns deal over the line.
            I suspect, this is Afghan related as well. Cats out the bag, with the RAF flights, so the Afghans in Pakistan can now fly direct from Islamabad and not have any awkward questions to answer witht he indirect routes.

            After changing the mayoral elections away from first past the post, this is his latest scam to try and rig things. It wont work, folks despise him and his party. He pols lower than Meghan Markle and 60% of those who voted Labour wont be doing so again.

            Crash and burn coming. Both Labour and the Tories have dug a massive hole this time. Time to fill that hole in with a bull dozer

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            • Red Tories, Blue Tories. Rizla paper.

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              • Not sure about this ?who?s fit to vote? thing. Sounds very 19th century to me

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                • Originally posted by Andy_Faber View Post
                  Not sure about this ?who?s fit to vote? thing. Sounds very 19th century to me
                  Hurrah, your question marks are back. rA will be happier now.

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                  • Originally posted by Andy_Faber View Post
                    Not sure about this 'who's fit to vote' thing. Sounds very 19th century to me
                    changed it for the benefit of all.

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                    • Originally posted by Andy_Faber View Post
                      Not sure about this ?who?s fit to vote? thing. Sounds very 19th century to me
                      But we already differentiate about who’s fit to vote, AF. For instance the most recent legislation will suddenly add, potentially, another 1.5 million voters who had previously been judged unfit to vote, and I think I’m right in saying that all convicted prisoners are considered ‘unfit’ to vote.
                      Extending things to include those with age related dementia etc is, I accept, probably simply not worth the effort but as I’ve said before, when I see a couple - not particularly old - who have to seek advice on how to fill in a ballot paper at a polling station, one does have to question their ability to deal with the electoral issues they are voting on.

                      P.S. The operative word there is ‘question’. I don’t pretend to know the answer.

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                      • Doe this photo enlarge interest in Epsteingate?

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                        • Trump suing Murdoch for 10 billion for reporting that Trump sent Epstein a letter back in the day. It's hardly beyond the realms of possibility, they clearly were friendly and well acquainted.

                          I am dismayed we are giving this man a state visit in September.

                          This is a man found guilty of ***ually abusing someone and we are going to roll out the red carpet.

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                          • Originally posted by SithHappens View Post

                            This is a man found guilty of ***ually abusing someone and we are going to roll out the red carpet.
                            Does this indicate the "specialness" of the US/UK relationship?

                            Will he be renewing his acquaintance with his old buddy Andy?

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                            • Originally posted by MadAmster View Post
                              Does this indicate the "specialness" of the US/UK relationship?

                              Will he be renewing his acquaintance with his old buddy Andy?
                              Donald, Andy and Nigel get together for a pint?

                              Andy says 'I ****ed dozens of women in the 80s and 90s', Donald says 'That's nothing I ****ed hundreds in the 80s, 90s and 2000s'. Nigel proudly sits back and says 'Is that the best you've got?. I ****ed a whole country in one day in 2016'

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                              • Originally posted by MadAmster View Post

                                Will he be renewing his acquaintance with his old buddy Andy?
                                Never met im

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