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[Ram Pant]

Moving on and more seriously. I’m no advocate of anarchy and it doesn’t sound, from a distance, as if the Netherlands have been experiencing such a state over recent times, but what, in your opinion, has been the clearest manifestation of this period of lack of effective leadership and government?

The fact that serious issues which are holding back individuals, communities, businesses and the country have been continually pushed further down the road. I;ve mentioned those issues several times so won't repeat.

[SithHappens]

I know Farage would be saying he should be deported.

https://news.sky.com/story/asylum-seeker-jailed-for-murdering-hotel-worker-rhiannon-skye-whyte-in-walsall-13500686

And I agree, why is he being imprisoned in the UK, surely deport to Sudan and let them deal with.

[ramAnag]

I know Farage would be saying he should be deported.

https://news.sky.com/story/asylum-seeker-jailed-for-murdering-hotel-worker-rhiannon-skye-whyte-in-walsall-13500686

And I agree, why is he being imprisoned in the UK, surely deport to Sudan and let them deal with.

Possibly because people want to ensure that the sentence is properly served? Take your point but it’s a little bit ‘damned if they do…damned if they don’t.’
Just seen this on the news. Horrible and tragic case, but do we really need the flag carriers and ‘Raise the Colours’ supporters in attendance?
This hideous murder happened to be perpetrated by an asylum seeker, the vast majority aren’t.

[swaledale]

Possibly because people want to ensure that the sentence is properly served? Take your point but it’s a little bit ‘damned if they do…damned if they don’t.’
Just seen this on the news. Horrible and tragic case, but do we really need the flag carriers and ‘Raise the Colours’ supporters in attendance?
This hideous murder happened to be perpetrated by an asylum seeker, the vast majority aren’t.

No we don't and no doubt that if the police records of many of those "patriots" were examined, its likely that many would be implicated in a number of unpleasant actions particulary as recent evidence has shown in crimes against women and children.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Lammy will probably let him out next week anyway

[swaledale]

Lammy will probably let him out next week anyway

Lammy doesn't actully have any operational responsibilties for prisons, so wouldn't accidentally release him and he obviously wouldn't fit the criteria for early release under a programme that was started by the Tories, due to their gross mismanagment and failure to increase prison places!!

Still like many of your "funny" quips, not based on any fact which rather misses the point! Sigh!

[Andy_Faber]

Lammy doesn't actully have any operational responsibilties for prisons, so wouldn't accidentally release him and he obviously wouldn't fit the criteria for early release under a programme that was started by the Tories, due to their gross mismanagment and failure to increase prison places!!

Still like many of your "funny" quips, not based on any fact which rather misses the point! Sigh!

lol at your lack of humour, you?re a gift that keeps on giving at the mo Swale

[ramAnag]

lol at your lack of humour, you?re a gift that keeps on giving at the mo Swale

Not as if your nemesis is the only person to take issue with GP’s dubious ‘witticisms’ this week is it?
I know you’re no longer a moderator, but what’s wrong with correcting other posters when appropriate?

[Ram Pant]

Not as if your nemesis is the only person to take issue with GP’s dubious ‘witticisms’ this week is it?
I know you’re no longer a moderator, but what’s wrong with correcting other posters when appropriate?

He is, actually still the moderator. IIRC, there's a few things he is still allowed to do but not as much as a year or 2 back. Not his fault that HQ don't seem to know their 'arris from their elbow.

[swaledale]

lol at your lack of humour, you?re a gift that keeps on giving at the mo Swale

MM the thing is, its only humour if it has a semblance of truth! When its regurgitated from the pages of the Daily fail or similar rags, it isn't funny. and merely demonstrates the originators lack of imagination.

LOL that you seem unable to refrain from posts that make you look silly, but then I guess thats your lack of self awareness. Perhaps you were subject to some "good bullying"?

[ramAnag]

He is, actually still the moderator. IIRC, there's a few things he is still allowed to do but not as much as a year or 2 back. Not his fault that HQ don't seem to know their 'arris from their elbow.

Okay, so a moderator in name only perhaps, and I agree, the failings of HQ are not AF’s fault…however the repeated attacks on one other poster are, as is the uncritical and tacit approval of another who varies wildly between intelligent and articulate v tasteless, inaccurate and occasionally ‘sick’ posts.

[Andy_Faber]

Okay, so a moderator in name only perhaps, and I agree, the failings of HQ are not AF’s fault…however the repeated attacks on one other poster are, as is the uncritical and tacit approval of another who varies wildly between intelligent and articulate v tasteless, inaccurate and occasionally ‘sick’ posts.

I?ve worn my cloak of moderation lightly and you have no idea what I?ve done behind the scenes with decreasing tools available, and absence of visibility and control of my actions i think contributes to your resentment of my role, but as an example of evenhandedness, if I followed the recent edict /rant about ?whataboutery? I?d have sanctioned Swale?s post of 2:42 for exactly that, yet I didn?t. I?m happy to reconsider if you want.

[ramAnag]

I?ve worn my cloak of moderation lightly and you have no idea what I?ve done behind the scenes with decreasing tools available, and absence of visibility and control of my actions i think contributes to your resentment of my role, but as an example of evenhandedness, if I followed the recent edict /rant about ?whataboutery? I?d have sanctioned Swale?s post of 2:42 for exactly that, yet I didn?t. I?m happy to reconsider if you want.

I don’t resent your role at all, although, by your own admission, it seems to be confined to what warrants a ‘stickie’ these days.

What I object to is your hypocrisy and lack of evenhandedness. If you’re a moderator then act like one and moderate…we all know that you and Swale don’t get on but you, imo, instigate at least as much - probably more - in the way of ‘fall out’ as he does and yet others, who’s views you seem to share, appear to cause offence with impunity.

You can’t have it both ways, Andy. Your ‘cloak of moderation’ as you call it resembles only the ‘Emperor’s new clothes’. You’re either a moderator or Tricky in disguise.

[Ram Pant]

Zzzzzzzzzz

[Geoff Parkstone]

The end is near