Election Year or Fear!

[Ram Pant]

The ones that do my head in are those that take about 10 minutes to show something that they could show in 30 seconds

They are not as bad as the ones that take half an hour to get to what they could have told you in 30 seconds...

[SithHappens]

In other news Farage goes to see Trump, taking more time out from serving his Clacton constituents. Sadly, for him, Trump never got the memo and declined to actually meet him.

[ramAnag]

In the meantime, see the war is going well.
So far a soon to be 80 year old extremist, megalomaniac christian (with the smallest of ‘c’s) has orchestrated the assassination of an extremist fundamentalist 86 year old Islamist (almost immediately replaced by his son).
Thousands have died, millions of $ that could have been spent on little things like curing cancer, providing cleaner energy, better health care, flood defences and ending the homeless crisis has been wasted and ordinary people are paying the price via either the cost of living or becoming refugees.
Duckin’ brilliant, what a wonderful world! Give the young ones a chance because these angry old men have really screwed up.

[Geoff Parkstone]

In the meantime, see the war is going well.
So far a soon to be 80 year old extremist, megalomaniac christian (with the smallest of ‘c’s) has orchestrated the assassination of an extremist fundamentalist 86 year old Islamist (almost immediately replaced by his son).
Thousands have died, millions of $ that could have been spent on little things like curing cancer, providing cleaner energy, better health care, flood defences and ending the homeless crisis has been wasted and ordinary people are paying the price via either the cost of living or becoming refugees.
Duckin’ brilliant, what a wonderful world! Give the young ones a chance because these angry old men have really screwed up.

You're talking our generation here rA so we must all be culpable. As a generation we are lucky to have avoided a major conflict in our lifetime calling on us to sacrifice - probably one of the few generations to have had that fortune in the last 200 years. Our children may not be so lucky, our grandchildren definitely wont be.

Incidentally I'd exchange a small i to islamist in the same way as the small c on christian as I dont see the Ayatollah as having espoused many of the more peaceful muslim values as far as I can understand them...

[ramAnag]

You're talking our generation here rA so we must all be culpable. As a generation we are lucky to have avoided a major conflict in our lifetime calling on us to sacrifice - probably one of the few generations to have had that fortune in the last 200 years. Our children may not be so lucky, our grandchildren definitely wont be.

Incidentally I'd exchange a small i to islamist in the same way as the small c on christian as I dont see the Ayatollah as having espoused many of the more peaceful muslim values as far as I can understand them...

That’s why I referred to him as Islamist rather than Muslim, GP. I’ve no time for extremists of any persuasion, be they Islamists or MAGA supporters - who would probably describe themselves as Christian - but I do object to those who seek to tar all Muslims with the same brush.

Personally I don’t feel at all culpable for the behaviour of the elderly extremists we speak of, but I do feel hugely frustrated by a world which repeatedly allows itself to be led into self destruct mode by extremist individuals or regimes be they MAGA, Islamist or Russian.

[Ram Pant]

In the meantime, see the war is going well.
So far a soon to be 80 year old extremist, megalomaniac christian (with the smallest of ?c?s) has orchestrated the assassination of an extremist fundamentalist 86 year old Islamist (almost immediately replaced by his son).
Thousands have died, millions of $ that could have been spent on little things like curing cancer, providing cleaner energy, better health care, flood defences and ending the homeless crisis has been wasted and ordinary people are paying the price via either the cost of living or becoming refugees.
Duckin? brilliant, what a wonderful world! Give the young ones a chance because these angry old men have really screwed up.

The bit in bold stimulated my brain and caused me to smile. I thought, for a split second that you were referring to a wang. I then thought of a 13 year old girl apparently/allegedly biting said mysogynistic appendage and hoping she'd drawn blood. Does that make me a horrible person?

[ramAnag]

The bit in bold stimulated my brain and caused me to smile. I thought, for a split second that you were referring to a wang. I then thought of a 13 year old girl apparently/allegedly biting said mysogynistic appendage and hoping she'd drawn blood. Does that make me a horrible person?

The first bit made me laugh. The rest I’m just a bit confused by. Has a thirteen year old bitten Trump’s appendage? I must have missed this allegation. But if it makes you a horrible person then I’m one too. Should have bitten it off!

[Geoff Parkstone]

That?s why I referred to him as Islamist rather than Muslim, GP. I?ve no time for extremists of any persuasion, be they Islamists or MAGA supporters - who would probably describe themselves as Christian - but I do object to those who seek to tar all Muslims with the same brush.

Personally I don?t feel at all culpable for the behaviour of the elderly extremists we speak of, but I do feel hugely frustrated by a world which repeatedly allows itself to be led into self destruct mode by extremist individuals or regimes be they MAGA, Islamist or Russian.

.... or Tony Blair. but I imagine thats a source of embarrasment to his fans both then and now. I dont rate Starmer much but he has at least responded well to the currebnt crisis so far

[Geoff Parkstone]

The first bit made me laugh. The rest I’m just a bit confused by. Has a thirteen year old bitten Trump’s appendage? I must have missed this allegation. But if it makes you a horrible person then I’m one too. Should have bitten it off!

Sounds like an extract from the Epstein files

[Andy_Faber]

That’s why I referred to him as Islamist rather than Muslim

you're confusing your faiths and your political/economic ideologies rA. He may be an Islamist but he's definitely a Muslim. It sounds like you're suggesting he isn't a Muslim, he is.

[ramAnag]

you're confusing your faiths and your political/economic ideologies rA. He may be an Islamist but he's definitely a Muslim. It sounds like you're suggesting he isn't a Muslim, he is.

I’m not confusing anything, AF and of course I’m not suggesting he’s not a Muslim. Fact is all Islamists are Muslims but NOT all Muslims are Islamists, far from it. Surprised I’ve had to explain that one.

[Andy_Faber]

I’m not confusing anything, AF and of course I’m not suggesting he’s not a Muslim. Fact is all Islamists are Muslims but NOT all Muslims are Islamists, far from it. Surprised I’ve had to explain that one.

OK thats cleared that up although I'm not sure what provenance your 'far from it' has. Some on here (not sure if that includes you) have asserted that all the 'Unite The Nation' marchers were 'far right', similarly without provenance. Likewise all Brexit voters and all MAGA hat wearers are 'idiots'. Just looking for balance/clarity, 'influencers' that we all are

[ramAnag]

OK thats cleared that up although I'm not sure what provenance your 'far from it' has. Some on here (not sure if that includes you) have asserted that all the 'Unite The Nation' marchers were 'far right', similarly without provenance. Likewise all Brexit voters and all MAGA hat wearers are 'idiots'. Just looking for balance/clarity, 'influencers' that we all are

Unusual amount of ‘whataboutery’ there for you, AF.
Generally and widely accepted that Islamists represent only a small percentage of the 2 billion Muslims in the world and that is the only point I was making, although I do have to agree…all MAGA hat wearers/supporters are indeed ‘idiots’…a sentiment that seems to be becoming clearer every day.

[Andy_Faber]

Unusual amount of ?whataboutery? there for you, AF.
Generally and widely accepted that Islamists represent only a small percentage of the 2 billion Muslims in the world and that is the only point I was making, although I do have to agree?all MAGA hat wearers/supporters are indeed ?idiots??a sentiment that seems to be becoming clearer every day.

Ah well...

[Ram Pant]

The first bit made me laugh. The rest I?m just a bit confused by. Has a thirteen year old bitten Trump?s appendage? I must have missed this allegation. But if it makes you a horrible person then I?m one too. Should have bitten it off!

Some journalists investigating the Epstein files, noticed that the numbers of the documents published didn't increment properly. There were gaps suggesting that some documents had been left out. They questioned and harried and eventually "found" the missing documents. All of which, allegedly aren't favourable to 47. 4 of the documents were FBI interviews with a woman claiming that she had been expected to give the bloke a blow job but bit it instead. She was 13 at the time. Those "in the know" about these things have said that the FBI must have considered her a credible witness or they wouldn't have had 4 interviews with her.