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  • Originally posted by BP33 View Post
    They don’t need resolved. Like any football ground in the world, they’re will be around 1 hour of travel congestion before and after the game.
    Go to planning then.

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    • Good point, it took longer to get out of Edinburgh last week than it took to get from bridge to Dundee, Parkhead has to be the worst with Ibrox a close second

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      • Originally posted by Returnofrros View Post
        Go to planning then.
        Why would I do that?
        Last edited by BP33; 08-11-2025, 06:44 AM.

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        • Originally posted by BP33 View Post
          Why would I do that?
          Fps

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          • Originally posted by BCram View Post
            It does seem as though there is something fundamental that has not yet been resolved. Imagine if there was no carparking in the project. Would that be a help? I think the Eden Project is being designed along these principles, and yet there a green corridor approach being pushed for Dock Streer, one of the material routes for buses and cars. It seems odd that there are no clear drawings that show what the club has to do to get planning permission that is acceptable to TS.
            There is one major difference between the Eden Project on Dock Street and the new stadium on the A90 Kingsway.
            The A90 Kingsway is a trunk road which comes under the control of Transport Scotland.
            Meanwhile Dock Street is not a trunk road and it comes under the control of Dundee City Council.
            This is why the Dundee City Councillors gave planning permission for the Eden Project just as the useless and incompetent Dundee City Councillors gave M & S planning permission to move to the Gallagher Retail Park despite the traffic congestion on Dock Street.
            If Tim Keyes had purchased the site of the old gas works on Dock Street for his new football stadium it would have received planning permission ages ago as the Dundee City Councillors are not interested in traffic congestion on Dock Street.

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            • Originally posted by islaydarkblue View Post
              There is one major difference between the Eden Project on Dock Street and the new stadium on the A90 Kingsway.
              The A90 Kingsway is a trunk road which comes under the control of Transport Scotland.
              Meanwhile Dock Street is not a trunk road and it comes under the control of Dundee City Council.
              This is why the Dundee City Councillors gave planning permission for the Eden Project just as the useless and incompetent Dundee City Councillors gave M & S planning permission to move to the Gallagher Retail Park despite the traffic congestion on Dock Street.
              If Tim Keyes had purchased the site of the old gas works on Dock Street for his new football stadium it would have received planning permission ages ago as the Dundee City Councillors are not interested in traffic congestion on Dock Street.
              I've driven along Dock Street many, many times and have never encountered significant traffic congestion.

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              • Originally posted by Deeranged View Post
                I've driven along Dock Street many, many times and have never encountered significant traffic congestion.
                I think that's because Dock Street is actually 4 lane road. Think the plans for Eden Project will change that, template being the Arbroath disaster.

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                • Originally posted by Deeranged View Post
                  I've driven along Dock Street many, many times and have never encountered significant traffic congestion.
                  Recently I have driven on several occasions on Dock Street to take my wife to M & S in the Gallagher Retail Park and it was gridlock leading up to the traffic lights at the entrance to the Gallagher Retail Park thanks to the dozy and incompetent Dundee City Councillors.

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                  • Originally posted by islaydarkblue View Post
                    Recently I have driven on several occasions on Dock Street to take my wife to M & S in the Gallagher Retail Park and it was gridlock leading up to the traffic lights at the entrance to the Gallagher Retail Park thanks to the dozy and incompetent Dundee City Councillors.
                    I've driven in major cities all over Europe - Milan, London, Paris, Amsterdam, Athens etc. Take it from me there is no major congestion, and definitely no gridlock, on Dock Street.

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                    • You wanna try naples

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                      • Originally posted by Deeranged View Post
                        I've driven in major cities all over Europe - Milan, London, Paris, Amsterdam, Athens etc. Take it from me there is no major congestion, and definitely no gridlock, on Dock Street.
                        I must admit, major disruption does occasionaly occur on Dock St when "incidents" on the road bridge happen.

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                        • Originally posted by Returnofrros View Post
                          You wanna try naples
                          Never been there but it's on my bucket list. I won't be driving though.

                          One of the worst I've ever experienced was Antwerp (admittedy in the 80s) which was just a free for all. Milan was bad, especially when someone broke down in the middle of five lanes, opened their doors, walked away and didn't bother even closing the doors.
                          Last edited by Deeranged; 11-11-2025, 01:42 PM.

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                          • Originally posted by davydook View Post
                            I must admit, major disruption does occasionaly occur on Dock St when "incidents" on the road bridge happen.
                            Yes that's true. But in the wider scheme of things it really isn't usually that bad. When it takes over an hour to travel 10 miles every day regardless of (cough) 'incidents' that's when you can say there's congestion.

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                            • NSD +73

                              Can't be long until December agenda announced.

                              Will another year roll by......looks like it.

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                              • Originally posted by Deeranged View Post
                                Never been there but it's on my bucket list. I won't be driving though.

                                One of the worst I've ever experienced was Antwerp (admittedy in the 80s) which was just a free for all. Milan was bad, especially when someone broke down in the middle of five lanes, opened their doors, walked away and didn't bother even closing the doors.
                                Naples folk just constantly toot horn.

                                Found it a very edgy place, every **** looked dodgy.

                                The ruins and Hercules were very interesting for me.....no abodys cup of tea but meh kinda thing.

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