Official Nelmsy Campus Countdown

[islaydarkblue]

As you well know these losses are covered by FPS. The debts are obviously going to increase, if the fans, don’t come out and support the team. Also due to the lack of facilities at Dens, our commercial opportunities are limited.

I would not be surprised to see a General meeting of Dundee Football Club Limited shareholders being called on or after 21st May 2024 to increase the authorised share capital from its current £4 million.
On 21st May 2019 a shareholders General meeting was held where is was agreed after a vote that the authorised share capital was increased from £2 million to £4 million. It was stated at this meeting that the authorised share capital would not increase for five years.
On 31st May 2019 FPS carried out a debt for equity share transaction swapping £550,000 of debt for shares and the £550,000 of debt was cancelled.
There have been no debt for equity share transactions since FPS acquired a 75% shareholding a couple of years ago but that might change if the authorised share capital is increased from £4 million to £8 million.
All these debt for equity share transactions has the effect of devaluing the shareholdings of every other Dundee Football Club Limited shareholder.

[islaydarkblue]

Kinda what I think too. We seem under resourced. I think the Campy stadium will need more supporters to make it work so why not try to get more fans now. Youngsters are a big plus. How do we get more of them?
Used to have Junior Dees, Open Day where the players turned up to speak to fans. Apologies if these still happen and I don't know!

As far as I am aware the last Fans Open Day was held in May 2012.
It was held on the Sunday immediately the last Saturday of the 2011-12 season and no players turned up to meet the fans.
There was an open training session last July where the players signed autographs from the young supporters after it ended.
I seem to remember it being stated at the Dee4life AGM on 11th November 2023 that Dee4life had offered to donate £5,000 towards the cost of restarting the Junior Dark Blues but the Club turned down their offer.

[islaydarkblue]

I think season tic membership the best way

I know this is a bit of a stretch.

And I know I've said in the past that people that are struggling financially ain't gonna go.....but now I think people that are ok financially have 2nd thoughts at times.

If there could be a way to let folk save infrequently towards a season tic.......a kinda DFC savings club with maybe 2 or 3 businesses across the city taking in money an outlet at club shop and a wee booth underneath Cox.

It's maybe far fetched.

But imagine beating hearts or Aberdeen, good game, 1 minute job to stick a fiver or tenner towards season tic as your coming out.

£400 in a oner is getting harder for a lot of people.

I have never had a season ticket and I attend home games when I am in Dundee apart from home games against Rangers and Celtic.
However the problems this season with home games being cancelled due to a waterlogged pitch could result in some season ticket holders who have difficulty attending evening home games deciding not to bother renewing their season ticket for next season.
Three home league games have already been cancelled this season due to a waterlogged pitch resulting in them being rearranged for a midweek kick off.
Dundee FC season ticket holders living in Aberdeen, Edinburgh and Glasgow might find it more difficult to attend an evening game than travelling to Dens Park for a Saturday afternoon 3pm kickoff.

[eric_sinclair]

We cud get our base up with a bit better pricing and marketing.

I said 10 years ago on here we shud have a target to get to 5,000 season tic holders and a plan on how to get there.

It won't just magically happen.

We have been really sloppy in that regard since before the yanks took over.

Other teams paying up next year's tics for example is a very good idea.

We seem so dependent on the same people buying every year.

We have to run the club better and the connection between the club and the supporters has to be better.....it can be better......but I'm not sure there's that much appetite for it from the club.

We seem to be an inconvenience at times rather than the beating heart.

Spot on.

[Deeranged]

I have never had a season ticket and I attend home games when I am in Dundee apart from home games against Rangers and Celtic.
However the problems this season with home games being cancelled due to a waterlogged pitch could result in some season ticket holders who have difficulty attending evening home games deciding not to bother renewing their season ticket for next season.
Three home league games have already been cancelled this season due to a waterlogged pitch resulting in them being rearranged for a midweek kick off.
Dundee FC season ticket holders living in Aberdeen, Edinburgh and Glasgow might find it more difficult to attend an evening game than travelling to Dens Park for a Saturday afternoon 3pm kickoff.

Anyone who buys a season ticket these days isn't doing so on the basis that all, or even the majority, of the games are a 3pm Saturday kick off. The individual fans who can't or won't attend midweek evening games have long since stopped buying season tickets and are now either buying match tickets or not bothering.

[BP33]

We cud get our base up with a bit better pricing and marketing.

I said 10 years ago on here we shud have a target to get to 5,000 season tic holders and a plan on how to get there.

It won't just magically happen.

We have been really sloppy in that regard since before the yanks took over.

Other teams paying up next year's tics for example is a very good idea.

We seem so dependent on the same people buying every year.

We have to run the club better and the connection between the club and the supporters has to be better.....it can be better......but I'm not sure there's that much appetite for it from the club.

We seem to be an inconvenience at times rather than the beating heart.

A lot of good points, but unfortunately a lot of out fans could write a book called, 1000 excuses not to go to Dens.

The Marrs really reduced the price of season tickets, and despite some really good players, there was no massive

Our ticket prices are on a par with every club in the Premier.

Under 12 tickets are £1, don’t think we can go much lower than that.
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[Deeranged]

A lot of good points, but unfortunately a lot of out fans could write a book called, 1000 excuses not to go to Dens.

The Marrs really reduced the price of season tickets, and despite some really good players, there was no massive

Our ticket prices are on a par with every club in the Premier.

Under 12 tickets are £1, don’t think we can go much lower than that.
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Half of United's tickets are free - you can always go lower if you want to improve statistics.

[Returnofrros]

A lot of good points, but unfortunately a lot of out fans could write a book called, 1000 excuses not to go to Dens.

The Marrs really reduced the price of season tickets, and despite some really good players, there was no massive

Our ticket prices are on a par with every club in the Premier.

Under 12 tickets are £1, don’t think we can go much lower than that.
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Our average was around 1,300 more under the Marrs.

That's about 20%, not to be sniffed at.

Plus carrying very large away supports.

I felt far more connected to the club and appreciated under the Marrs.

[eric_sinclair]

Our average was around 1,300 more under the Marrs.

That's about 20%, not to be sniffed at.

Plus carrying very large away supports.

I felt far more connected to the club and appreciated under the Marrs.

I,m sure most probably did.
Didna end to well tho

[Returnofrros]

And this is where I think nelms goes wrong.

He's a cold fish.....that's ok folk can be cold fish, don't need Elton John in charge.

But his statement " it dosent matter what division we are in"

You may as well translate that to " it dosent matter if we have any fans"

I don't think he gets it and I don't think anyone at Dens has a vested interest in growing the club.

[BCram]

And this is where I think nelms goes wrong.

He's a cold fish.....that's ok folk can be cold fish, don't need Elton John in charge.

But his statement " it dosent matter what division we are in"

You may as well translate that to " it dosent matter if we have any fans"

I don't think he gets it and I don't think anyone at Dens has a vested interest in growing the club.

Maybe comments like these on this thread might encourage those who work at the club to take a fresh look at what they do and what they achieve. I think if the club piled in on trying to boost support now, the worries about Campy might be less of a concern. A bigger brighter batter DFC would seem to me to be better able to take advantage of a new stadium.

[islaydarkblue]

Maybe comments like these on this thread might encourage those who work at the club to take a fresh look at what they do and what they achieve. I think if the club piled in on trying to boost support now, the worries about Campy might be less of a concern. A bigger brighter batter DFC would seem to me to be better able to take advantage of a new stadium.

The current problem the staff who work for the Club have is that any initiatives they have could be be blocked by John Nelms.
This subject has been continually debated since the days of the Official Club forum, the Dark Blues Forum and Dundee Mad with no success as the management of Dundee Football Club never do anything about it.
Posters have been asking for six or ten games packages to be sold for supporters who are unwilling to purchase a season ticket because they can only attend a limited number of home games each season. There has been no reply from the Club.

[islaydarkblue]

And this is where I think nelms goes wrong.

He's a cold fish.....that's ok folk can be cold fish, don't need Elton John in charge.

But his statement " it dosent matter what division we are in"

You may as well translate that to " it dosent matter if we have any fans"

I don't think he gets it and I don't think anyone at Dens has a vested interest in growing the club.

You have hit the nail on the head.
Nelms has no interest in the Dundee supporters as he is only interested in his new stadium development at Campy Nou which keeps him in the public eye.

[Returnofrros]

Maybe comments like these on this thread might encourage those who work at the club to take a fresh look at what they do and what they achieve. I think if the club piled in on trying to boost support now, the worries about Campy might be less of a concern. A bigger brighter batter DFC would seem to me to be better able to take advantage of a new stadium.

I don't want to go but if the club do go there it has to have a bit of momentum behind it....a increasing fan base, an excited fanbase, a decent team and management ( which we have at the moment) DFC need to make the campus work for DFC fans not "there it is take it or leave it".

We don't want to be known as the team that plays at campy but no **** goes.

They have to own it, start selling it to the fans......that's not happened in the slightest yet.......and it's why I have considerable it's happening or even more doubts it will just miraculously be a success without a huge amount of work to make it a success.

[BCram]

You have hit the nail on the head.
Nelms has no interest in the Dundee supporters as he is only interested in his new stadium development at Campy Nou which keeps him in the public eye.

To be fair, I think it is impossible to make any statements about Campy that answer the questions being asked. It will either happen or it won't, imo. Campy should not throw a spanner in the works. Everybody else at the club will be trying to boost attendances and support the team. I think encouraging those who work for DFC is a very worthwhile activity.