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  • Originally posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    It was shown in the plans on display at the first Pre Application Noice meeting held in Dundee Ice Arena in September 2017.
    I also saw the plans when I attended a Dee4life board of directors meeting as a non voting guest in Bob Hynd’s office in May 2018.
    I can assure you that the new rule on access from slip roads was known at that time and I doubt any responsible architect would propose such a design. Of course it could be that a completely unqualified individual just misinterpreted what they saw - is that a possibility?

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    • Originally posted by Deeranged View Post
      I say 'would' and 'might' because I still believe these accesses will never be required because no stadium will ever be built.

      The time to accept the 'planning submission imminent' comment by John Nelms as valid has passed IMO and I now consider that comment a total pi55 take.
      Like you do not believe that the new stadium development will ever be built and John Nelms when asked directly what is happening about his new stadium development at Campy Nou churns out these replies to effectively ‘kick the can down the road’ for a few months to get the press off his back.
      A week past Saturday there was a topic on the Friends of Dundee FC Facebook Page about the new stadium development at Campy Nou. On Facebook people quote their own name and unlike Internet forums like Dundee Mad and the Dark Blues Forum do not hide behind a Username when making their posts.
      One person in reply to my post stated that he had recently been speaking to John Bennett who told him that he (Bennett) had been at a presentation by John Nelms and Nelms stated that his new stadium development at Camperdown Leisure Park is a £250 million development.
      Even if it is a $250 million development this equates to around £200 million based on current exchange rates.

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      • Originally posted by Deeranged View Post
        I can assure you that the new rule on access from slip roads was known at that time and I doubt any responsible architect would propose such a design. Of course it could be that a completely unqualified individual just misinterpreted what they saw - is that a possibility?
        They might not have known about the new rules until after the first Pre Application Notice meeting when Transport Scotland contacted them to state that the law had been changed regarding access from large car parks directly onto slip roads for roundabouts on the trunk road network.
        In my opinion this site at Campy Nou would make an ideal training facility for Dundee Football Club with a large indoor training facility similar to the Regional Performance centre at Caird Park and outdoor training pitches.
        This would solve the need to rent the Dundee University playing fields for first team training which happened last Wednesday morning when the players restarted training after their short winter break and having to rent the indoor facility at Caird Park due to inclement weather.

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          • Originally posted by Returnofrros View Post
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            The latest excuse will be that Nelmsy has been distracted by the Burnley owners deal with Dundee FC or the new Dundee Football Club University grade course which was announced last week to little comment on the forums including here.
            When I read the press release on the Club website I had to check my calendar because I thiught it might have been 1st April.

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              • Originally posted by Returnofrros View Post
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                More importantly it is now more than one month after the end of the 2023 calendar year and there is still no sign of John Nelms submitting his Planning Permission in Principle planning application for his new stadium development at Campy Nou to Dundee City Council.

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                • Originally posted by islaydarkblue View Post
                  More importantly it is now more than one month after the end of the 2023 calendar year and there is still no sign of John Nelms submitting his Planning Permission in Principle planning application for his new stadium development at Campy Nou to Dundee City Council.
                  And DFC are now in the top 6. Notice you never give any credit to the playing side of things, or the Owners backing.

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                  • Originally posted by BP33 View Post
                    And DFC are now in the top 6. Notice you never give any credit to the playing side of things, or the Owners backing.
                    Do you not see these 2 things as completely separate issues BP ?

                    The ghost stadium and the team/playing side?

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                    • Originally posted by BP33 View Post
                      And DFC are now in the top 6. Notice you never give any credit to the playing side of things, or the Owners backing.
                      Was thinking that maybe there is a two stream approach. Nelms and the stadium, Keyes and the football team?

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                      • Originally posted by BP33 View Post
                        And DFC are now in the top 6. Notice you never give any credit to the playing side of things, or the Owners backing.
                        It is thanks to Tim Keyes’s financial backing that we are currently in the top 6 and we have signed a lot of players on loan during this transfer window.
                        However I think that Tim Keyes has given up on the new stadium development at Campy Nou and left his representative in Dundee to get on with it himself.
                        Unless you know differently.

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                        • Originally posted by Returnofrros View Post
                          Do you not see these 2 things as completely separate issues BP ?

                          The ghost stadium and the team/playing side?
                          I’m more interested in the playing side, TBH. If the new stadium gets built, I’ll be surprised, but happy.

                          Can’t see what Nelmsy gets out of lying about stadium.

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                          • Originally posted by islaydarkblue View Post
                            It is thanks to Tim Keyes’s financial backing that we are currently in the top 6 and we have signed a lot of players on loan during this transfer window.
                            However I think that Tim Keyes has given up on the new stadium development at Campy Nou and left his representative in Dundee to get on with it himself.
                            Unless you know differently.
                            Do you know Tim Keyes?

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                            • Originally posted by Returnofrros View Post
                              Do you not see these 2 things as completely separate issues BP ?

                              The ghost stadium and the team/playing side?
                              They of course are 2 different propositions,I think some posters see constant digs at nelms about the new stadium(warranted yes) but the playing side is totally down to the same owners and some just cant seem to give Nelms any praise.

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                              • Originally posted by eric_sinclair View Post
                                They of course are 2 different propositions,I think some posters see constant digs at nelms about the new stadium(warranted yes) but the playing side is totally down to the same owners and some just cant seem to give Nelms any praise.
                                More down to Tony Doc who was maybe 4th or 5th choice.

                                Maloney and Davidson both cud have had the job if they said yes.

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