Official Nelmsy Campus Countdown

[BP33]

exactly!

Paying 700k a year, for a stadium that generates no income, apart from match days. New stadium will generate cash 6/7 days a week I would guess. Makes sense to me, but I’m no mathematician.

Hope Douglas doesn’t ask for a tour.

[Returnofrros]

Paying 700k a year, for a stadium that generates no income, apart from match days. New stadium will generate cash 6/7 days a week I would guess. Makes sense to me, but I’m no mathematician.

Hope Douglas doesn’t ask for a tour.

Dosent say how much is borrowed.......I'd assume pretty much it all.

That's a lorra lorra concerts.

Still good to see the start of the charm......dinnae like DSA bit...... unnecessary goading.

[islaydarkblue]

DSA membership is the member clubs x members of each club

I think that the DSA have a total of about 1,000 members from the number of members clubs plus their members.

[islaydarkblue]

Dosent say how much is borrowed.......I'd assume pretty much it all.

That's a lorra lorra concerts.

Still good to see the start of the charm......dinnae like DSA bit...... unnecessary goading.

He also stated in the article about two games a week being played at the stadium.
It is two games a month.

[islaydarkblue]

Dosent say how much is borrowed.......I'd assume pretty much it all.

That's a lorra lorra concerts.

Still good to see the start of the charm......dinnae like DSA bit...... unnecessary goading.

I have never heard of businesses being granted a 100 years mortgage.

[Returnofrros]

This isnae meh question but how is a £95 million and a century long mortgage cheaper than 700 k a year.

Only 1 stab to answer this from BP.

Not my question but comes from someone who knows a wee bit.

Even paying zero interest it's 950k a year to pay back 95 mill

I'd be really impressed if no interest paid. 😆

Do you think he means it costs the football club 750k now but as the stadium won't be the football clubs there will be zero maintenance.

Confused DSC

[Returnofrros]

542

[islaydarkblue]

Only 1 stab to answer this from BP.

Not my question but comes from someone who knows a wee bit.

Even paying zero interest it's 950k a year to pay back 95 mill

I'd be really impressed if no interest paid. ��

Do you think he means it costs the football club 750k now but as the stadium won't be the football clubs there will be zero maintenance.

Confused DSC

Considering Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited are paying between 9% and 24% interest on their current loan secured against their Camperdown development site it is very unlikely that they will be able to obtain a loan paying zero per cent interest for 100 years.
I think that Nelms has inflated the costs of running Dens Park to justify building a new stadium development at Camperdown the same way as he has greatly inflated the number of DSA members.
Technically speaking the DSA has 23 affiliated supporters clubs whilst Dee4life has 531 members.

[Returnofrros]

Considering Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited are paying between 9% and 24% interest on their current loan secured against their Camperdown development site it is very unlikely that they will be able to obtain a loan paying zero per cent interest for 100 years.
I think that Nelms has inflated the costs of running Dens Park to justify building a new stadium development at Camperdown the same way as he has greatly inflated the number of DSA members.
Technically speaking the DSA has 23 affiliated supporters clubs whilst Dee4life has 531 members.

Yeah to say DSA has a membership of 6,000 was being very economical with the truth.....it was said to have a sly dig at D4L.......and he doesnae even have toastie Tootsies. 😄

[BCram]

I have decided not to reply to the question of affordability. I can't get any figures that makes it look achievable and maybe we should just wait and see. Still think Dee4life need to find a way to raise money.

[jdfc]

Considering Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited are paying between 9% and 24% interest on their current loan secured against their Camperdown development site it is very unlikely that they will be able to obtain a loan paying zero per cent interest for 100 years.
I think that Nelms has inflated the costs of running Dens Park to justify building a new stadium development at Camperdown the same way as he has greatly inflated the number of DSA members.
Technically speaking the DSA has 23 affiliated supporters clubs whilst Dee4life has 531 members.

DSA members are the 23 member clubs x there membership, I’d hazard a guess at between 650 and 700

[islaydarkblue]

DSA members are the 23 member clubs x there membership, I’d hazard a guess at between 650 and 700

There are certainly a lot less than the 6,000 plus quoted by John Nelms.

[islaydarkblue]

I have decided not to reply to the question of affordability. I can't get any figures that makes it look achievable and maybe we should just wait and see. Still think Dee4life need to find a way to raise money.

Dee4life are due to be holding a members meeting online on the evening of Monday 18th March 2024.
That would be a golden opportunity for any Dee4life members to put forward the subject of Dee4life setting up a stadium fund raising scheme in case the current directors of Sandeman Properties Limited do not repay their loan secured over Dens Park within the laid down timescales.

[BP33]

DSA members are the 23 member clubs x there membership, I’d hazard a guess at between 650 and 700

There won’t be 6,000 members, but there will be far more than 700. I would say between the Ferry, and Carnoustie, there will be around 120 minimum.

[jdfc]

There won’t be 6,000 members, but there will be far more than 700. I would say between the Ferry, and Carnoustie, there will be around 120 minimum.

A lot of these clubs have single figure membership, our has less than 80 but take a bus every game, most of them don’t take buses to matches and are member clubs in name only, I’m not trying to belittle the DSA, just trying to show a more realistic number, you could probably push it to 1000