Agent Pressley so far ?

[islaydarkblue]

You would need to offer it to away fans also

Would need to be done as two game package

The Club have a two game package every time we play Rangers and Celtic at home.
The cost of the home game immediately before the home game plus the home game against either Rangers or Celtic is usually about ?10 cheaper than purchasing a ticket for each game.
Our home games against Rangers and Celtic are usually televised live on Sky which defeats the purpose of purchasing a two game package when you can watch one of the games live on SKY in the comfort of your own home.

[islaydarkblue]

Do other fanbases not age or get unwell?

We seem to have an aged fan base compared to the Dabs thanks to us not winning anything of note since 15th December 1973.

[islaydarkblue]

Do other fanbases not age or get unwell?

We seem to have an aged fan base compared to the Dabs thanks to us not winning anything of note since 15th December 1973.

[BCram]

Ah! Would that be so bad? Would not want to discount tickets for OF, but if we were to add a significant number of Dees at Dens, might the be worthwhile. Seems as though we give up before we even play them, both as a support, by staying away and as a team by low levels of effort.
I am not having a pop at either our support or our team, but maybe if we turn up in bigger numbers we might inspire our team?

[BCram]

Do other fanbases not age or get unwell?

They won't age as quickly if they have an active engagement with youngsters.
We have very good youth teams that seem to do well in National competitions. Maybe they could do "exhibition" games against local single school teams? We need to engage with youngsters who play football. That seems to be the starting point for getting new families involved in supporting DFC.
Perhaps Dee4life could sponsor a few games between our age group teams and single school teams. Seems to me a single young footballer might bring a potential couple of parents, 4 grandparents, and some of their school pals.

Senior players should also be expected to help.

[Deeranged]

You will change your tune when you officially become an OAP and qualify to receive the state pension.
Regarding the former 4,000 season ticket holders.
The Dundee FC support is an aged support and it likely that a number of them have died or are suffering from ill health which prevents them attending home games at Dens Park.

What is it that prevents you attending home games regularly?

[Deeranged]

They won't age as quickly if they have an active engagement with youngsters.

Do fans of other clubs age at a slower rate than fans of Dundee FC then?

[islaydarkblue]

What is it that prevents you attending home games regularly?

Watching negative football played by the Dundee FC players since Pressley took over a manager.

[islaydarkblue]

They won't age as quickly if they have an active engagement with youngsters.
We have very good youth teams that seem to do well in National competitions. Maybe they could do "exhibition" games against local single school teams? We need to engage with youngsters who play football. That seems to be the starting point for getting new families involved in supporting DFC.
Perhaps Dee4life could sponsor a few games between our age group teams and single school teams. Seems to me a single young footballer might bring a potential couple of parents, 4 grandparents, and some of their school pals.

Senior players should also be expected to help.

You are possibly not aware that Dee4life donated ?2,500 to Dee Promotions at the beginning of May 2025 and never received any mention about the donation on the Dee Promotions Facebook page.
Meanwhile the DSA hand over ?800 to the Dundee Academy and they have their photograph taken at Gardyne which is then posted on Facebook.
About three years ago the club wanted Dee4life and the DSA to go 50:50 on the coast of resurrecting the Junior Dark Blues which was to be organised and run by the Dundee FC Community Trust.
The DSA committee members were not happy about the proposed monthly cost as some poor families could not afford to pay for the monthly cost of their children to become a member of the Junior Dark Blues.
As a result nothing was done and the Junior Dark Blues are still in abeyance.
In my opinion if the DSA were so concerned about the cost of monthly membership of the Junior Dark Blues for poor families they could have raided their piggy bank and subsidised the cost themselves.
Dee4life were happy to contribute their share of the cost because they realise that young members of the Junior Dark Blues are likely to be Dundee FC supporters for life.

[Returnofrros]

You will change your tune when you officially become an OAP and qualify to receive the state pension.
Regarding the former 4,000 season ticket holders.
The Dundee FC support is an aged support and it likely that a number of them have died or are suffering from ill health which prevents them attending home games at Dens Park.

I won't Islay.

Having worked with folks finances for 2 and a half decades......I know the vast majority of pensioners have it better than youngsters in low paying jobs.

Its actually a wee bit sick that somebody with a much bigger brain than me will have far less opportunity re property, pensions an investment just because I was born right at the sweet spot time.

We should be the Jimmy saville of football clubs and targeting youngsters.

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Watching negative football played by the Dundee FC players since Pressley took over a manager.

And before that?

[notso]

I won't Islay.

Having worked with folks finances for 2 and a half decades......I know the vast majority of pensioners have it better than youngsters in low paying jobs.

Its actually a wee bit sick that somebody with a much bigger brain than me will have far less opportunity re property, pensions an investment just because I was born right at the sweet spot time.

We should be the Jimmy saville of football clubs and targeting youngsters.

I know you like a dig at pensioners , but their not all on decent money , if you break down the pension into say 37 hour Week , then unless said pensioner get other incomes like Attendance allowance, universal credit etc , then the basic pension is well below minimum wage , and I mean well below it?s about ?7.50 an hour

[Deeranged]

I know you like a dig at pensioners , but their not all on decent money , if you break down the pension into say 37 hour Week , then unless said pensioner get other incomes like Attendance allowance, universal credit etc , then the basic pension is well below minimum wage , and I mean well below it?s about ?7.50 an hour

You can't put out the state pension in terms of hourly rate because it isn't wages earned for labour. In reality it becomes 281.25 for your 37.5 hour week but with no hours worked in return.

State pension is insignificant to many pensioners who have private and other pensions as their main source of income as well as savings to fall back on. Those who don't have that will possibly have additional benefits to make up their living costs. They also likely won't have the expenses that a younger person just starting out might have - mortgage, kids' costs, travel (except two or three holidays per year) etc.

I don't think RRoS digs at pensioners, he just knows how entitled they've become and how they've become much better off than they were back in the day compared to younger working people. Time to stop all over 60/ over 65 concessions and to start applying more concessions to younger people in my opinion. And that's from someone who's getting close to the age to qualify for these.

[BCram]

Do fans of other clubs age at a slower rate than fans of Dundee FC then?

I know you know what I meant! Pity the make more effort to recruit youngsters was lost. One new young player could bring 6 adults to Dens, immediate family only, plus possible siblings. Surely there's a way to use Dens to showcase our youngsters.

[BCram]

You can't put out the state pension in terms of hourly rate because it isn't wages earned for labour. In reality it becomes 281.25 for your 37.5 hour week but with no hours worked in return.

State pension is insignificant to many pensioners who have private and other pensions as their main source of income as well as savings to fall back on. Those who don't have that will possibly have additional benefits to make up their living costs. They also likely won't have the expenses that a younger person just starting out might have - mortgage, kids' costs, travel (except two or three holidays per year) etc.

I don't think RRoS digs at pensioners, he just knows how entitled they've become and how they've become much better off than they were back in the day compared to younger working people. Time to stop all over 60/ over 65 concessions and to start applying more concessions to younger people in my opinion. And that's from someone who's getting close to the age to qualify for these.

It would be interesting to see how much a person who has survived on our benefit system, without working, receives as pension.
Just interested. Perhaps new recent pensioners have had very different lifetime earnings, so maybe all pensioners are not able to look after themselves in their old age?