Strap yourselves in

[A. J]

Over the last 15 games we have went from one of the higher scoring teams in the league to the 2nd lowest - St Mirren lowest.

Yet somehow in those games we have picked up more points than Aberdeen, St Mirren, Killie and Livvy.
In fact the same 4 teams have picked up less points than us in last 5 games.
Unlikely but we could be in trouble if these teams suddenly start winning.
Here's a realistic possibility for those that think we are safe.

All our remaining pre split games are huge inc cup game, for me the 2 priority ones are St Mirren and Livvy.
St Mirren game on Tues is huge, if they win we are 3 pts above 10th and we play Dundee - who would go above us with a win- and old firm in our next 3 games before last pre split game v Livvy.

By then Killie could have beat Livvy thus 6pts behind us and their last pre split home game is against Dundee who may literally have nothing to play for.

If we continue to lose games inc against St Mirren and Livvy, I think we could well be 11th, especially with our post split record under Jim, however we could also reach cup final.

Finishing 11th and getting to final may be very unlikley but as the title says, brace yourselves for an uncomfortable ride.

Edited to add that Aberdeen should really be more worried than us. On currenr form I can easily see a last day scenario of Utd v Aberdeen final game decider to avoid play off spot.

[Arabdownsouth]

Meanwhile in an alternate universe, our f*cking deluded manager still thinks top six is mathematically possible 🤣

Reality is,if we dont empty this clown then your scenario becomes more and more likely.

[shedka]

Meanwhile in an alternate universe, our f*cking deluded manager still thinks top six is mathematically possible 🤣

Reality is,if we dont empty this clown then your scenario becomes more and more likely.

He doesn't need emptied because of a defeat at fir park yesterday where game was changed by the officials

Short term thinking and panicking

[PT_Arab]

He doesn't need emptied because of a defeat at fir park yesterday where game was changed by the officials

Short term thinking and panicking

No one, absolutely no one is calling for Goodwin to be removed purely because of the result at Fir Park and I think you know that fine well. The swell of "Goodwin out" calls are due to our poor, or indifferent, or downright shocking form since the end of September. Loads of people have mentioned the six wins all season, three wins at home, as being way below acceptable. So you know that it's not about the result against Motherwell in isolation - it's just the latest in a long line of abject negative performances from a team who were actually playing some very positive football in the early part of the season. This is anything but short term or panic - this is the result of months of dire performances and underachieving from a squad that we know are capable of much better.

[Arabdownsouth]

He doesn't need emptied because of a defeat at fir park yesterday where game was changed by the officials

Short term thinking and panicking

I think I've explained why I want him gone and it's neither of those things,but you knew that already.

[geofoxposse]

Woosh, rose tinted tangerine glasses. whenever you call another side on you will give away penalties and create the situation where it can happen. If we were in their box then it would possibly be us getting the pen. simple. JG is finished GTF the longer he persists the more damage he will do and the more bitter the departure.

[ETAuldncrabbit]

He doesn't need emptied because of a defeat at fir park yesterday where game was changed by the officials

Short term thinking and panicking

Are you related to Jim? The game wasn’t changed by the officials, they just brought things forward slightly. Well were never out of second gear and even without the pen they win the game. We were brutal again.

[A. J]

Any credits Jim had for last 2 years are gone, this season has been terrible.
Its a results business and matchdays are meant to be an exciting experince.
Forget about steadying the finance boat, this season, most times the team Jim has sent out have been dire.
For the last feq months he always seems to put us in a position to be unlucky.
He sets us up poorly.
He puts players in wrong positions/formations.
He reacts too late.
His team sits on leads.
His team concedes late goals.

His approach allows our opponents to gain confidence, push forward and put themselves in a position to be lucky, late goals, penalty etc.
Unlike Jim, most other managers demand their players keep going knowing we are a soft disorganised team with little heart or desire.

He blames refs, the pitch, bad luck, anyone and anything that deflects.

Shameful.

Crowds will dwindle if this keeps going.

[North_Coast_Arab]

Any credits Jim had for last 2 years are gone, this season has been terrible.
Its a results business and matchdays are meant to be an exciting experince.
Forget about steadying the finance boat, this season, most times the team Jim has sent out have been dire.
For the last feq months he always seems to put us in a position to be unlucky.
He sets us up poorly.
He puts players in wrong positions/formations.
He reacts too late.
His team sits on leads.
His team concedes late goals.

His approach allows our opponents to gain confidence, push forward and put themselves in a position to be lucky, late goals, penalty etc.
Unlike Jim, most other managers demand their players keep going knowing we are a soft disorganised team with little heart or desire.

He blames refs, the pitch, bad luck, anyone and anything that deflects.

Shameful.

Crowds will dwindle if this keeps going.

100% Spot On.

[Arabs4ever]

Any credits Jim had for last 2 years are gone, this season has been terrible.
Its a results business and matchdays are meant to be an exciting experince.
Forget about steadying the finance boat, this season, most times the team Jim has sent out have been dire.
For the last feq months he always seems to put us in a position to be unlucky.
He sets us up poorly.
He puts players in wrong positions/formations.
He reacts too late.
His team sits on leads.
His team concedes late goals.

His approach allows our opponents to gain confidence, push forward and put themselves in a position to be lucky, late goals, penalty etc.
Unlike Jim, most other managers demand their players keep going knowing we are a soft disorganised team with little heart or desire.

He blames refs, the pitch, bad luck, anyone and anything that deflects.

Shameful.

Crowds will dwindle if this keeps going.

Yet if he had a go and we lost he wouldn't get so much stick. On the 17th of March he needs drenched in Guinness maybe then if he is pissed he will have a phuckin go at the opposition.

[LSArab]

I want Goodwin to stay.

His record has been good overall.

Won the championship and finished 4th - overachieved

Second season back up is never easy and other teams have shown that

The recruitment was good. I agree with others that 3-4-3 hasn?t worked. But don?t see that as a reason to get rid of a decent, experienced manager

His man management is good and it is clear players are playing for him.

We have been unlucky this season with the late goals which have killed us a bit

I do think the experiment of a new team this season has shown that we need a bit more experienced pros to be consistent

Overall 2 good seasons and if we finish 7th or 8th with a cup run to semis or better I am happy

I do feel Goodwin is building with this squad and I?d like him to see him have some more years and to build something lasting at tannadice

The endless sacking of managers has served us very badly since the levein / PH era

[Arabdownsouth]

I want Goodwin to stay.

His record has been good overall.

Won the championship and finished 4th - overachieved

Second season back up is never easy and other teams have shown that

The recruitment was good. I agree with others that 3-4-3 hasn?t worked. But don?t see that as a reason to get rid of a decent, experienced manager

His man management is good and it is clear players are playing for him.

We have been unlucky this season with the late goals which have killed us a bit

I do think the experiment of a new team this season has shown that we need a bit more experienced pros to be consistent

Overall 2 good seasons and if we finish 7th or 8th with a cup run to semis or better I am happy

I do feel Goodwin is building with this squad and I?d like him to see him have some more years and to build something lasting at tannadice

The endless sacking of managers has served us very badly since the levein / PH era

It's like Shedka hijacked your account 🤣

[TerryTheTerror]

It would be stupid to get rid of JG this season. The turn over it players was too great last summer and is was always likely to take time for him to blend a team out of it and assess who are hits and who are not. If we can keep this group and tweak in the summer then I think we'll have a decent team. Otherwise his T will be out I think

[Arabdownsouth]

It would be stupid to get rid of JG this season. The turn over it players was too great last summer and is was always likely to take time for him to blend a team out of it and assess who are hits and who are not. If we can keep this group and tweak in the summer then I think we'll have a decent team. Otherwise his T will be out I think

So you dont think any of the blame for our poor season falls on his absolute insistence on playing one way and refusing to see it's not working?

[TerryTheTerror]

Honestly, not really. Formation fads come and go but I think it's important that a manager believes in it. I think it's more down to the quality of players we have.

It's easy to create an argument about the formation not fitting the players we have but, honestly, I don't think it'd make that much difference anyway. It's not going to suddenly return Will Ferry back to the form we saw last season for instance.