New coach thread

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

I'm generally a supporter of our current owners. They are very good in the NFL world.

However, I do think this is a case of a lack of understanding of the English Football world. They are very steady and stick with coaches longer than many other owners but they also fail to understand the nature of the football season. The NFL has a much lower number of games. Regular season is 16 if I recall right. Much more compressed. What is odd is the the 49's are quicker than most teams to get rid of "star players". They kind of practice the "team before self" mantra. Especially in key positions such as Quarterback or Wide receivers. They are one of the best on having "the next man up" tactic. If you play for them you know you better earn your spot each week.

Farke does not practice this at all. A player has a couple of poor performances and they still are slotted in. A weird disconnect and one likley to get us relegated.

Football and other sports such as rugby have changed tactically now that such a big number of subs are allowed.

It allows impact subs to be brought on whether premeditated or in response to the game. Farke is hopeless at that and when he does just seems to randomly through all the attacking players on without much thought to positions - Dan James seemed to playing centre mid last week at the end.

The other advantage of big squads is it allows player rotation and a way to develop young players - another things Farke seems not very good at.

There is no point t having good young players if they don?t get any game time to develop. The PSR model makes that aspect super important.

[Billyni]

Exactly, what is the point of it all, drop to the championship just to try to get back to where we are now, I used to love football but I?m quickly getting to the beyond caring bit, as it all seems pointless to other things in life, all very depressing.

Ah yes, Tuesday nights away to a London club. Something to look forward to.

[WTF11]

I'm generally a supporter of our current owners. They are very good in the NFL world.

However, I do think this is a case of a lack of understanding of the English Football world. They are very steady and stick with coaches longer than many other owners but they also fail to understand the nature of the football season. The NFL has a much lower number of games. Regular season is 16 if I recall right. Much more compressed. What is odd is the the 49's are quicker than most teams to get rid of "star players". They kind of practice the "team before self" mantra. Especially in key positions such as Quarterback or Wide receivers. They are one of the best on having "the next man up" tactic. If you play for them you know you better earn your spot each week.

Farke does not practice this at all. A player has a couple of poor performances and they still are slotted in. A weird disconnect and one likley to get us relegated.

Rewarding, in some sense, that others have recognised various less than positive aspects of the 49-ers Enterprises ownership of LUFC;

1. Don't know the first thing about football outside the USA

2. Don't know the first thing about European football

3. Belief that Farke knows anything more than they do about survival in the Premiership.

And other "stuff.

Just wish I hadn't been so accurate in my prediction.

[Pacaman]

Rewarding, in some sense, that others have recognised various less than positive aspects of the 49-ers Enterprises ownership of LUFC;

1. Don't know the first thing about football outside the USA

2. Don't know the first thing about European football

3. Belief that Farke knows anything more than they do about survival in the Premiership.

And other "stuff.

Just wish I hadn't been so accurate in my prediction.

Really!
Pity you weren?t as accurate when you told us you were not returning to this forum. Seem to recall it was only a few months ago when you spouted that.

[WTF11]

Really!
Pity you weren?t as accurate when you told us you were not returning to this forum. Seem to recall it was only a few months ago when you spouted that.

I'm surprised you don't understand the difference between a statement of intent and an opinion (or a forecast come to that).

I said I intended to stay away. I have changed my mind in that regard (at least on some issues), as everyone is entitled to.

My opinions however, on Farke and his failings, the 49-ers Enterprises (in)abilities, the (un)likelihood (is that a word?) of there being any significant ground improvements at ER and a number of other issues, remain the same. What HAS changed is that you, Spaldy, HO and others have started to comment in much the same vein as I did on such matters, only 6 months later. Better late than never say I .

[Monaco_Totty]

Wanna add into the mix of comments made regarding 'game-time' & conclusions stating that the Coach is to blame every time for players moving on or not being picked.
That is not the case always, imo, so i'll offer my word flow into the thread for balance folks. 👍

Firstly, actually being a pro footballer is a major achievement but staying in the game by building a lasting career requires more than talent as they have to balance the views of their coaches regarding progress, the eyes & ears of owners balancing the books & of course the mercurial players agents offering sudden or unpredictable changes of mood or mind when possible deals are available.

Secondly, lets throw in FIFAs Article 17 & the 'Webster ruling' of which contracted players under & over 28 can/do utilise in their quest for quality game time, which has happened at our club as well as many others, just not publicly made known.
For young players who have just been offered professional contracts, the next phase is likely to be entering under-21 squads even 'tho there is a hidden danger to this which fans are not always aware of.

Based on insights from discussions with pro players its crucial to explain to the 'Coach bashers' into why loan spells can be an alternative fundamental tool for those who are moving out of U21 squads, as rather than fearing loan outs all players should embrace them as it can help them by giving valued 'game time'.
As loaning players out is a method to actively support player development, whether for younger players or fringe players which ultimately also helps their coaches & club owners too planning wise.

Gotta say, a loan move can help fringe players rediscover their form, or it can help a club get rid of an unwanted or disgruntled player until a permanent sale is arranged as transfers today are complicated with lots of people & money involved.

Often more than just two simple sides of a story when players are not getting quality game time or are loaned out, as are the different personalities of all involved in such decisions of which the average fan is never made publicly aware of.

Just my food for thought on quality game time from my brains prefrontal-cortex which is responsible for rational thinking, decision making & planning.
Basically, it kinda works to override emotional impulses by using logic, weighing the long-term consequences if you get my drift. 🤗

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Wanna add into the mix of comments made regarding 'game-time' & conclusions stating that the Coach is to blame every time for players moving on or not being picked.
That is not the case always, imo, so i'll offer my word flow into the thread for balance folks. 👍

Firstly, actually being a pro footballer is a major achievement but staying in the game by building a lasting career requires more than talent as they have to balance the views of their coaches regarding progress, the eyes & ears of owners balancing the books & of course the mercurial players agents offering sudden or unpredictable changes of mood or mind when possible deals are available.

Secondly, lets throw in FIFAs Article 17 & the 'Webster ruling' of which contracted players under & over 28 can/do utilise in their quest for quality game time, which has happened at our club as well as many others, just not publicly made known.
For young players who have just been offered professional contracts, the next phase is likely to be entering under-21 squads even 'tho there is a hidden danger to this which fans are not always aware of.

Based on insights from discussions with pro players its crucial to explain to the 'Coach bashers' into why loan spells can be an alternative fundamental tool for those who are moving out of U21 squads, as rather than fearing loan outs all players should embrace them as it can help them by giving valued 'game time'.
As loaning players out is a method to actively support player development, whether for younger players or fringe players which ultimately also helps their coaches & club owners too planning wise.

Gotta say, a loan move can help fringe players rediscover their form, or it can help a club get rid of an unwanted or disgruntled player until a permanent sale is arranged as transfers today are complicated with lots of people & money involved.

Often more than just two simple sides of a story when players are not getting quality game time or are loaned out, as are the different personalities of all involved in such decisions of which the average fan is never made publicly aware of.

Just my food for thought on quality game time from my brains prefrontal-cortex which is responsible for rational thinking, decision making & planning.
Basically, it kinda works to override emotional impulses by using logic, weighing the long-term consequences if you get my drift. 🤗

My thoughts on the subject are also well thought through and rational having in previous threads gone through the stats of player time etc.

You only have to look at what lots of young players under his change and have said and what he says publicly to know it is a big weakness.

The better managers often but not always are able to do it he can?t but reflects the fact he is flawed. His good bits are decent but he isn?t and I suspect will struggle to ever be a truly top level coach.

His rules seem to hinder rather than help gettin the best players on the pitch.

[Pacaman]

I'm surprised you don't understand the difference between a statement of intent and an opinion (or a forecast come to that).

I said I intended to stay away. I have changed my mind in that regard (at least on some issues), as everyone is entitled to.

My opinions however, on Farke and his failings, the 49-ers Enterprises (in)abilities, the (un)likelihood (is that a word?) of there being any significant ground improvements at ER and a number of other issues, remain the same. What HAS changed is that you, Spaldy, HO and others have started to comment in much the same vein as I did on such matters, only 6 months later. Better late than never say I .

Your apparent approach on this board and most likely in life is to be king of wind up. The opinions you have are often readable and reasoned but your attitude towards others who comment stinks.

You affect the support of this board as people cant be arsed with your attacks and dont want to engage on topics because of you. You only seem happy when you can have a go at folk. A shame really. Perhaps you are needy person.

Personally, I think wind up merchants hitting keyboards to attack others belong exactly where they usually end up …………. With an oversized ego and lonely.

[spaldy]

MT,

As always, thanks for insight. I also was not aware of possible limits of FA.

However, my biggest beef with Farke is no adjustments in games or when a player is having an off game ( just like we all do at work occasionally) he doesn?t make adjustments. Frankly, MB didn?t either. I?m hyper sensitive in that regard.

Other coaches in the prem always seem to do this so much better.

I think this really really affects the recruiting and has a lot to do with our inconsistency. No real pressure to perform game in and out. Elland road puts pressure so that helps on the home games

[WTF11]

Wanna add into the mix of comments made regarding 'game-time' & conclusions stating that the Coach is to blame every time for players moving on or not being picked.
That is not the case always, imo, so i'll offer my word flow into the thread for balance folks. 👍

Firstly, actually being a pro footballer is a major achievement but staying in the game by building a lasting career requires more than talent as they have to balance the views of their coaches regarding progress, the eyes & ears of owners balancing the books & of course the mercurial players agents offering sudden or unpredictable changes of mood or mind when possible deals are available.

Secondly, lets throw in FIFAs Article 17 & the 'Webster ruling' of which contracted players under & over 28 can/do utilise in their quest for quality game time, which has happened at our club as well as many others, just not publicly made known.
For young players who have just been offered professional contracts, the next phase is likely to be entering under-21 squads even 'tho there is a hidden danger to this which fans are not always aware of.

Based on insights from discussions with pro players its crucial to explain to the 'Coach bashers' into why loan spells can be an alternative fundamental tool for those who are moving out of U21 squads, as rather than fearing loan outs all players should embrace them as it can help them by giving valued 'game time'.
As loaning players out is a method to actively support player development, whether for younger players or fringe players which ultimately also helps their coaches & club owners too planning wise.

Gotta say, a loan move can help fringe players rediscover their form, or it can help a club get rid of an unwanted or disgruntled player until a permanent sale is arranged as transfers today are complicated with lots of people & money involved.

Often more than just two simple sides of a story when players are not getting quality game time or are loaned out, as are the different personalities of all involved in such decisions of which the average fan is never made publicly aware of.

Just my food for thought on quality game time from my brains prefrontal-cortex which is responsible for rational thinking, decision making & planning.
Basically, it kinda works to override emotional impulses by using logic, weighing the long-term consequences if you get my drift. 🤗

I "get your drift" but IMHO you continue to make excuses for a coach who (as HO eloquently ariculates), can't do what the vast majority of successful PL coaches can, particularly in the spheres of player development and relationship building, never mind the equally v I t a l matter of adequate game time. All are matters which form the life-blood newly promoted club's and LUFC is no exception.

[ozleeds]

Whose to blame for all the recruiting? Only Longstaff and the useless keeper are playing now; Stach is in his bad books to go with Tanaka and the others.

[WTF11]

Your apparent approach on this board and most likely in life is to be king of wind up. The opinions you have are often readable and reasoned but your attitude towards others who comment stinks.

You affect the support of this board as people cant be arsed with your attacks and dont want to engage on topics because of you. You only seem happy when you can have a go at folk. A shame really. Perhaps you are needy person.

Personally, I think wind up merchants hitting keyboards to attack others belong exactly where they usually end up …………. With an oversized ego and lonely.

Have I "had a go" at you? The suggestion that you are unable to distinguish between a statement of intent and expressing an opinion would seem mild, unless you are very thin-skinned (given the industry you work in, that's unlikely).

Apart from the somewhat heated debate between myself and those deluded individuals who believe that Trump is actually good for America (I make NO APOLOGY for challenging that view but happy to accept otgers views on matters related to football), try finding comments of a personal nature regarding those with whom I might disagree.

As for "affecting the support if this board" in the period I didn't post this place had tumbleweed with more to say for themselves.

Collective backslapping doth not a healthy forum make. Debate is what is required.

I wind up no-one, I express my opinion and defend it until shown that it is flawed. Given the posts from you and quite a few others I have sparred with in the past, my flawed opinions are pretty insignificant compared to others.

[ozleeds]

The Rt Hon Sir Keir Starmer KCB KC MP Sir Keir Starmer became Prime Minister on 5 July 2024. FOR THE WIN

[WTF11]

The Rt Hon Sir Keir Starmer KCB KC MP Sir Keir Starmer became Prime Minister on 5 July 2024. FOR THE WIN

Errrrrrr.......what? Really don't get what your beef is with Starmer (I doubt he has ever instigated a policy that stole ?300 from pensioners and I'm one!)?

[Monaco_Totty]

My thoughts on the subject are also well thought through and rational having in previous threads gone through the stats of player time etc.

You only have to look at what lots of young players under his change and have said and what he says publicly to know it is a big weakness.

The better managers often but not always are able to do it he can?t but reflects the fact he is flawed. His good bits are decent but he isn?t and I suspect will struggle to ever be a truly top level coach.

His rules seem to hinder rather than help gettin the best players on the pitch.

Great coaches who coach players to be great ?

Bate, Drameh, Poveda, Shackleton, Klaesson, Cresswell, Perkins & Greenwood have played under great coaches, 'tho some folks may argue lack of 'game time' held them back as others may suggest they where 'fringe' players or even they had other issues to contend with.

Banged on in my time on here about players with potential but recent analysis of over 4,000 players who were in top-tier 'Category One' academies revealed that 97 per cent never made a single PL appearance !

Not quite the same case in French Ligue 1 as the better ones end up leaving France.
Around 7 per cent of all players entering French academies sign a professional contract in Ligue 1.
Of those in an academy system during their early age years only about 4 per cent make it to a top-tier professional Ligue 1 club.
When looking at all registered players in France, only a minuscule 0.03 per cent end up playing in Ligue 1 or Ligue 2 often working under decent coaches too.

Despite high production rates of talent, the odds for any individual player entering the system to make it to the top level remain very slim in any top league regardless of Coaches.

Saying all that, developing young players is a clear priority for many French clubs with their business model dependent on 'selling them' for substantial profits. The minutes afforded to young 'uns in Ligue 1 are 'tho significantly higher than the other top 5 leagues & thats been a clear pattern across recent seasons & why so many French young players get picked off to play all over to be part of teams with better players to show full potential.

Mmm, to join a club with better players & good coaches ?
Well Villa may fit that bill suppose so whats gone wrong there then H ?
Their board, PSR, poor substitutions, moaning fans or poor transfer choices ?
As for a promising player handled by good coaches but never worked out as yet ?
Eddie Nketiah.

Obviously not gonna agree but to define a good coach equals producing great young 'uns requires slightly more focus on surrounding factors to each individual situation in my book.

Could have, should have or can be defines every signing whatever age but what will be will what we see - so heres hoping that the DF rules will come of age. 👍