Chelszki

[whitestomper45]

The equivalent of an athlete failing a drugs test… They should be relegated at least one league and UEFA ban them from all competitions and titles won during that time taken off them

[Rev72]

Pathetic punishment but oh wait , its a London club , say no more !

[spaldy]

No Chelsea fan but?They are choirboys compared to Citeh.

Chelsea did the wrong thing and self reported.

Citeh just sues and walks away unscathed.

The lesson here is just lie, deny and litigate and you can do anything you want as long as you want

[norfolk white]

Both rich enough to pay back handers

[whitestomper45]

The new owners reported this….forgive me for being sceptical but I find this hard to believe that highly paid business people missed all this

[spaldy]

It goes on with a chunk of clubs. The big 6 along with the wannabes that want to be in the big time such as Leicester and Forrest.

Obviously many of the clubs that lack any kind of morals and scruples play the system the best. Look at who owns Citeh and the Gooners. People without any regard for others and lack any kind of moral fiber. Perfect to game a corrupt and power hungry organization like the FA.

The Chelsea owners are used to American sports system where money fixes all problems and they don't have to worry about promotion/relegation. They don't fully understand the impact that a transfer ban may have on them in the long run.

[norfolk white]

Personally a fine is the easy way out for all, the clubs can afford to pay and the fa say we?ve done what we can do, however if a points deduction hit the top 6 that would be a different matter.

[WTF11]

It goes on with a chunk of clubs. The big 6 along with the wannabes that want to be in the big time such as Leicester and Forrest.

Obviously many of the clubs that lack any kind of morals and scruples play the system the best. Look at who owns Citeh and the Gooners. People without any regard for others and lack any kind of moral fiber. Perfect to game a corrupt and power hungry organization like the FA.

The Chelsea owners are used to American sports system where money fixes all problems and they don't have to worry about promotion/relegation. They don't fully understand the impact that a transfer ban may have on them in the long run.

Never ceases to amaze me how "selective" some can be regarding the merits and moral standing of the owners of football club's and just how pure as the driven snow those who have seen fit to invest in LUFC might be.

Those who own the likes of City, Chelsea, Scum, Newcastle etc are following in the footsteps of (amongst others), Ridsdale, Bates, GFH, Cellino, Radrizzani, and yet there are LUFC supporters who are offended because they are better at playing the system but who would give their eye teeth for LUFC to be as successful any.

Live in the real world rather than some idealistic cloud cuckoo place.

[spaldy]

Did I miss something? Did Bates, Gfh or Celino throw money around or break rules? I don’t understand how any of those have any analogy to any of the free spending PSR violating clubs.

I think you’ll recall we did sell Gray, Summerville,Rutter and Rapha to stay PSR compliant. I can’t recall any of the obvious violators like citeh, gunners, spurs, pool ever selling someone to stay within PSR rules.

So yes, ours are more honest and ethical than others

[WTF11]

Did I miss something? Did Bates, Gfh or Celino throw money around or break rules? I don’t understand how any of those have any analogy to any of the free spending PSR violating clubs.

I think you’ll recall we did sell Gray, Summerville,Rutter and Rapha to stay PSR compliant. I can’t recall any of the obvious violators like citeh, gunners, spurs, pool ever selling someone to stay within PSR rules.

So yes, ours are more honest and ethical than others

You are seriously asking if Ridsdale, Bates, GFH, Cellino AND Radrizzani "threw money around)" AND broke the rules? Do a bit (and I mean, a bit!) if research before you ask such a blind-numbingly stupid question.

As for the second paragraph of your post, you seriously think those clubs you mention are stupid enough as to repeat the monumental blunders of previous LUFC owners when they play the system?

Like I say, get real, do unto others as you would be done to and WAKE UP to the real world, it's not going to be all sweetness and light!

[spaldy]

Risdale was before my time. I understand he was the progenitor of the current corruption and that Leeds has seriously suffered over the decades for his sins. Lumping the other 3 you reference into the category of Citeh, Gunners, or the others that skirt PSR rules is a fools errand.

You spew bile and vitriol just to get a charge out of people. You might need to take a break from your miserable life and the interwebs for a while and go out and walk around in the real world. Maybe get a fishing pole and catch a meal and get the simple satisfaction of getting back to our roots.


I'm very aware of the real world and no one has ever accused me of being asleep at the switch on things that really matter.

[WTF11]

Risdale was before my time. I understand he was the progenitor of the current corruption and that Leeds has seriously suffered over the decades for his sins. Lumping the other 3 you reference into the category of Citeh, Gunners, or the others that skirt PSR rules is a fools errand.

You spew bile and vitriol just to get a charge out of people. You might need to take a break from your miserable life and the interwebs for a while and go out and walk around in the real world. Maybe get a fishing pole and catch a meal and get the simple satisfaction of getting back to our roots.


I'm very aware of the real world and no one has ever accused me of being asleep at the switch on things that really matter.

Don't see how my last post contained any bile, spewed or otherwise, simply suggesting that the constant complaints about club's flouting current regulations is pure hypocrisy when you consider the behaviour of the Leeds owners I refer to.

I'm not one of those who would support any LUFC owner without question, however I suspect the vast majority of Leeds supporters would be happy to have owners like Kroenke or the Saudi royal family etc. as long as Leeds featured in the PL top 6 and in European competition(s), something that is a dim distant dream away under present ownership.

[whitestomper45]

You are seriously asking if Ridsdale, Bates, GFH, Cellino AND Radrizzani "threw money around)" AND broke the rules? Do a bit (and I mean, a bit!) if research before you ask such a blind-numbingly stupid question.

As for the second paragraph of your post, you seriously think those clubs you mention are stupid enough as to repeat the monumental blunders of previous LUFC owners when they play the system?

Like I say, get real, do unto others as you would be done to and WAKE UP to the real world, it's not going to be all sweetness and light!

You are talking the usual gibberish... far from throwing money around Bates was an asset stripper and hid money for personal gain to the detriment of the club..nothing to do with cooking the LUFC books to hide spending. GFH were similar, Cellino and Radz as far as I remember were a big part of sorting out those hidden personal assets and again nothing to do with breaking financial rules. Ridsdale was an idiot who openly overspent and gambled on future profits.
You obviously don't engage with Leeds fans, none I know are jealous of the so called top 6 with their plastic clubs/grounds/fans

[WTF11]

You are talking the usual gibberish... far from throwing money around Bates was an asset stripper and hid money for personal gain to the detriment of the club..nothing to do with cooking the LUFC books to hide spending. GFH were similar, Cellino and Radz as far as I remember were a big part of sorting out those hidden personal assets and again nothing to do with breaking financial rules. Ridsdale was an idiot who openly overspent and gambled on future profits.
You obviously don't engage with Leeds fans, none I know are jealous of the so called top 6 with their plastic clubs/grounds/fans

Did I say Bates was profligate in spending on the club? No I did not. He and all the others used their wealth (if they had any, not forgetting GFH!), for their own benefit and "played the system" as defined by the legal system and footballing authorities for the same ends, exactly as the contemporary owners of the majority of the PL clubs. As for Cellino and Radrizzani, take off the blinkers. Cellino was as much a liability as Ridsdale but at least he was an "honest" fool, and you only have to remember how Radrizzani tried to remortgage the ground whilst trying to sell the club!

We have NOT had reputable owners since Manny, and I include 49-ers Enterprises in my scepticism, given their readiness to acquire a "competitor" club in the form of Glasgow Rangers (and who else would they want to add to their stable).

As for the view from fans, I'd suggest it's you who isn't engaged with the majority. Have a look at the "social media" that Spaldy appears to be so dismissive of if you want some indication of the direction of travel. I don't subscribe to their thinking but it most certainly exists.

[whitestomper45]

Did I say Bates was profligate in spending on the club? No I did not. He and all the others used their wealth (if they had any, not forgetting GFH!), for their own benefit and "played the system" as defined by the legal system and footballing authorities for the same ends, exactly as the contemporary owners of the majority of the PL clubs. As for Cellino and Radrizzani, take off the blinkers. Cellino was as much a liability as Ridsdale but at least he was an "honest" fool, and you only have to remember how Radrizzani tried to remortgage the ground whilst trying to sell the club!

We have NOT had reputable owners since Manny, and I include 49-ers Enterprises in my scepticism, given their readiness to acquire a "competitor" club in the form of Glasgow Rangers (and who else would they want to add to their stable).

As for the view from fans, I'd suggest it's you who isn't engaged with the majority. Have a look at the "social media" that Spaldy appears to be so dismissive of if you want some indication of the direction of travel. I don't subscribe to their thinking but it most certainly exists.

None of our owners played the system to win titles by hiding money deals... so I've no idea about what this "playing the system" has to do with the OP... there is financial planning correctness in say the Glazers taking over that mob, buying the club with it's own money, or Chelszki buying players on long term contracts or indeed Radz looking to use the ground as currency... not the way you want your club run but technically above board and again nothing to do with winning titles that are clearly now tainted.

As for the majority of fans on social media wanting us to be more like the plastics... i don't see it... there's a few who shout loud about removing the manager, that they know a winning formulae!!!!!... not that I take online stuff as a good reflection of the majority of fans views.