Ok, not football at all, but it matters, eventually.

[WTF11]

Interminable debates on Covid, it's roots, effects, the varied reactions of various governments leading to what? No universal agreement, no accountability that all can rely upon or agree with, so a huge expendture of time and energy delivering next to nothing. You can't change the past, only learn from he mistakes of history.

Unlike the world right now, which CAN be changed and not for the first time the bully in the White House has had second thoughts.

He threatens a fellow NATO member with possible military action, he threatens itger NATO members with trade sanctions if they don't support his ambition to buy Greenland, he comes to the meeting today in Davos and spends an hour insulting all and sundry, repeating the threats of sanctions (confusing Greenland with Iceland in several occasions!) and then within 2 hours of leaving the stage he withdraws the threat of sanctions (having already stated the threat of military action was withdrawn).

He's so much earning the "TACO Trump" strap line.

[spaldy]

I?m a little fuzzy on moving on part of the comment.

So after killing millions, looking the other way while the government?s of the world walked all over their citizens, turning the education and business world upside and scarring an entire generation of young people we are to move on?

We can determine where a sick cow was raised in Canada 4 years after its death but can?t figure out where a virus originated or was created and who funded the research we just move on?

There is nothing even remotely going in the world now that has anywhere near the importance of finding out how this happened and how it can be prevented in the future.

Such a giant chasm between what was done to us in 2020 and what?s happening now

[WTF11]

I?m a little fuzzy on moving on part of the comment.

So after killing millions, looking the other way while the government?s of the world walked all over their citizens, turning the education and business world upside and scarring an entire generation of young people we are to move on?

We can determine where a sick cow was raised in Canada 4 years after its death but can?t figure out where a virus originated or was created and who funded the research we just move on?

There is nothing even remotely going in the world now that has anywhere near the importance of finding out how this happened and how it can be prevented in the future.

Such a giant chasm between what was done to us in 2020 and what?s happening now

Even if I agreed with even a small amount of the nonesense generated by the conspiracy theorists, which i obviously don't, answer me this.....

With not a single government of ANY stripe giving even the smallest scintilla of attention and resource to the questions you ask, just how are any of them going to be answered?

Unless the nin-existent global conspiracy you put forward can be regenerated and this time to find those answers, you and those of the same view are blowing in the wind.

[WTF11]

He is beyond the pale....

He questions whether NATO would "be there" for the US if called.

The ONLY time in its entire history that Article 5 of the NATO Treaty has been used was in the aftermath of 9/11 when the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA asked for and was given support by her NATO allies.

He questions the dedication and commitment of NATO troops in Afghanistan, seemingly ignoring that over 1000 non-USA armed forces were killed during the deployment there.

He is a disgrace to the office of President of the United States and an embarrassment to the citizens of that sadly divided and ashamed nation.

[whitestomper45]

He managed to insult just about everyone with his speech. Saying Europe have never been there for America, yet for instance Denmark lost more soldiers pro rata than the US.
Chiding that if America hadn't joined the war, the people present he was orating too would all be speaking German and maybe a little Japanese..... in Davos, Switzerland... where they mostly speak German.

The last Island that America bought from Denmark was Little Saint James... now infamously known as Epstein Island

[WTF11]

He managed to insult just about everyone with his speech. Saying Europe have never been there for America, yet for instance Denmark lost more soldiers pro rata than the US.
Chiding that if America hadn't joined the war, the people present he was orating too would all be speaking German and maybe a little Japanese..... in Davos, Switzerland... where they mostly speak German.

The last Island that America bought from Denmark was Little Saint James... now infamously known as Epstein Island

Seems there are some things (perhaps the more significant ones), we agree on.

His insults to NATO armed forces are literally unforgivable, the dead remember their own.

[WTF11]

He has described those buried at Arlington as "losers".

What depths of insulting behaviour and comment would this disgusting individual NOT plumb?

[WTF11]

In the UK and to an extent in mainland Europe, w are accustomed to the antics of the "America first" lobby. As an example, during the period from August 1939 to December1941 when the USA was supposedly neutral, Roosevelt suggested to Churchill that aircraft bought legitimately from US manufacturers be towed by horse drawn means iver the border into Canada so as not to inflame the isolationist movement.

However, in the 80 or so years since, no President of the United States has insulted friends and comrades in arms as Trump, no President of the United States has convened and collaborated with dictators and warmongers as Trump has, and no President of the United States has been so willing to play fast and loose with the environmental impact of human beings in the one place in the universe we can call home.

Well done America.

[Oranje White]

@ WTF. We're sick of your TDS. Trump lives rent free inside your boring empty brain. I caught you out big time proving you were a liar because you fell for those BBC lies and you're still unwilling to admit you fell for it like the gullible naive fool you are. The BBC admitted it!!!!! You still think the clot shot works!! LOL. You still think a Chinese woman eating Bat soup caused Covid!!! LOL.You are so clueless and uninquisitive that I wonder if you live in a mental institution where they sit you in front of a telly tuned in to the BBC 24/7 and slip your med's into your jelly and custard.

[spaldy]

I believe the US is withdrawing from WHO due to its failure to investigate the Covid pandemic. Not really sure how make a stronger statement than that.

The reality is that when the world needed quick investigation and cooperation on the outbreak in wuhan from the Chinese they did nothing. It?s a toothless organization that did nothing when it was most needed.

[ozleeds]

I believe the US is withdrawing from WHO due to its failure to investigate the Covid pandemic. Not really sure how make a stronger statement than that.

The reality is that when the world needed quick investigation and cooperation on the outbreak in wuhan from the Chinese they did nothing. It?s a toothless organization that did nothing when it was most needed.

That sounds like the EU all over

[WTF11]

I believe the US is withdrawing from WHO due to its failure to investigate the Covid pandemic. Not really sure how make a stronger statement than that.

The reality is that when the world needed quick investigation and cooperation on the outbreak in wuhan from the Chinese they did nothing. It?s a toothless organization that did nothing when it was most needed.

And? So the USA withdraw from the one organisation that might, just, have the global reach to investigate, rather than making it clear as the largest contributor to WHO and remaining as such, that they MUST step up.

Makes it less likely that any investigation will take place.

[WTF11]

That sounds like the EU all over

Just to help you out there, the WORLD HEALTH ORGANISATION is based in Geneva, Switzerland, with resources provided by governments across the globe (now withiut the USA of course).

Switzerland is NOT part of the EU.

Just saying.

[spaldy]

Even if I agreed with even a small amount of the nonesense generated by the conspiracy theorists, which i obviously don't, answer me this.....

With not a single government of ANY stripe giving even the smallest scintilla of attention and resource to the questions you ask, just how are any of them going to be answered?

Unless the nin-existent global conspiracy you put forward can be regenerated and this time to find those answers, you and those of the same view are blowing in the wind.

Since you are rather fond of correcting posters on inconsequential items such as Switzerland not being EU. They are a money laundering scheme so they can't take sides on anything. You also seem very fond of ranting about trump items such as hookers urinating on him in moscow along with the 1000 other stories that make a spash on the headlines and then are quietly corrected in the 18th page in the smallest font the paper has.

Allow me to correct this post. It's actually a big one and something that affected the entire world and established a new world order that we may never recover from. The debt alone from Covid will bankrupt future generations for many countries.

It's not a "consipiracy" when something is proving factual. I have no idea what you are on about regarding Covid. It's been established that it broke out of a lab in Wuhan and the chinese covered it up. It's also been all but proven that it did not arise our of a mutation of some animal or bat as the chinese propaganda stated.

The other points on my post are rather easy to verify.

Most damning is your inability to understand the level of evil and depravity this scam perpetuated on humanity. It's a crime against humanity that pales against anything short of the holocaust. A generation or children were scarred emotionally and academically. Trust in world organizations and governments damaged or eliminated and freedoms lost that will never be regained throughout anything but bloodshed and war. The damage to the media and "journalists" is profound. Trust is at an all time low and they are little more that mouthpieces for what their employer tells them to say/write. They are being replaced by social media and the internet which is not good for anyone.

Perhaps the most immediate impact is on the medical profession. Many people were badly damaged by the vaccines and have lifetime damage that will never recover from. Even to this day the vaccines have never been approved by many countries certifiers (FDA in the US) and still hiding behind their absolute waiver of any liability even when damages are proven. The trust lost in the system, which is universal, may never be regained. Doctors, once held in the highest esteem, are perceived as little different than a politician or lawyer. They are a tool of our rulers and forced injections on all of us... especially young children who got little more than the sniffles when exposed.

Your hatred of Trump has clouded your ability to identify whats really important. I'm really glad that the people in charge after WW2 didn't take the posture of "moving on" and just overlook the crime against humanity that the Nazis were. The impact from Covid is almost as bad as that was and will have a world wide impact just like WW2 did.

[spaldy]

On a lesser note. I think you'll find that the US pulling out of the WHO will have a much bigger impact that you purport. I realize many don't give a hoot about the US but everyone want's our money. When it's time to pony up with money everyone seems to get T rex arms real fast. I am f*(&^ng sick and tired of paying my tax dollars (40%+) due to this crap. My share of the US debt load is over $320,000. A good sized chunk of that debt is on fraud, corruption and clown shows like the WHO and the UN along with the crazed regulation and mandates foisted on us.

Rant and hate on all you want but when the US pulls out of funding it gets real serious really fast. In case you are so detached you and your US friends can't figure it out. Trump is a manifestation of dissatisfaction of what occurred in Covid and the previous regime that lorded over us in a make believe world of governance. They were even more extreme than our current ruler.