O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[BigFatPie]

.. after the next election.

I wish I had the nerve to predict how bad the next government will be after repeatedly voting for the current sh!tshow.

[i961pie]

It seems the old saying that 'hell hath no fury like a woman scorned' could also become 'hell hath no fury like a Home Secretary scorned'! Cruella certainly doesn't mince her words. Must admit I'm enjoying this civil war, but I don't get what Sunak hopes to achieve by bringing Cameron back. Sacking someone on the right and bringing in a confirmed remainer will only send a few more Tory gammons to Reform UK. I just can't see what sort of voter it will attract.

The sad truth is that we are left with a hopelessly incompetent and corrupt government for another year. And to anyone who says "they are all as bad", when did we ever have a government this bad?

1978 ran it close for being incompetent but not as corrupt has this one.

[OchPie]

I wish I had the nerve to predict how bad the next government will be after repeatedly voting for the current sh!tshow.

There's some truth in the idea that the next government is going to have to spend significant time trying to overcome or fix all the issues, neglect and sheer craziness of this one.

[BigFatPie]

There's some truth in the idea that the next government is going to have to spend significant time trying to overcome or fix all the issues, neglect and sheer craziness of this one.

Well I suppose in Notts terms the next government will be taking over from Jamie Fullerton rather than Luke Williams but I’ll be surprised if people don’t notice just a rise in basic competence before any big ideological changes.

[Old_pie]

Can't see Boris getting back in myself.

I see Starmer is failing in his attempts to control his troops.

[Elite_Pie]

I see Starmer is failing in his attempts to control his troops.

He is, but failing to control his troops when he doesn't make the decisions is very different to having a hopelessly divided party when your job is to make the decisions.

I see the Tories have pissed £140 million up the wall on Rwanda so far.

And a whole lot more on HS2, where we're talking billions!

[JoePass]

He is, but failing to control his troops when he doesn't make the decisions is very different to having a hopelessly divided party when your job is to make the decisions.

I see the Tories have pissed £140 million up the wall on Rwanda so far.

And a whole lot more on HS2, where we're talking billions!

Deflection, deflection, a much used Labour tactic, unfortunately it will not work. I am loving the comedy show tonight on GB News, get the popcorn out.

[Old_pie]

He is, but failing to control his troops when he doesn't make the decisions is very different to having a hopelessly divided party when your job is to make the decisions.

So when it matters they are all of a sudden going to toe the line? Good luck with that.

I see the Tories have pissed £140 million up the wall on Rwanda so far.

It is an embarrassment in particular since the case for rejecting the appeal seems so very clearly documented beforehand.

And a whole lot more on HS2, where we're talking billions!

We don't do big infrastructure in this country. Bring back Brunel or even Edward Watkin who wanted to connect the North of England with Europe in the late c19th (Great Central Railway). Yes, that didn't work either.

[BigFatPie]

Deflection, deflection, a much used Labour tactic, unfortunately it will not work. I am loving the comedy show tonight on GB News, get the popcorn out.

Laugh at this racist.


Westminster voting intention

📈27pt Labour lead

🌹 Lab 46% (+2)
🌳 Con 19% (-4)
🔶 Lib Dem 9% (-1)
➡️ Reform 10% (+2)
🌍 Greens 8% (+1)
🎗️ SNP 5% (+1)

Via @FindoutnowUK
2,198 GB adults, 13-14 Nov

[Elite_Pie]

So when it matters they are all of a sudden going to toe the line? Good luck with that.

Where did I say that?

I didn't.

[Elite_Pie]

Deflection, deflection, a much used Labour tactic, unfortunately it will not work.

Open your eyes Soccerman, the Tories are well and truly f*cked, for a start, you still haven't said "in Rishi we trust"!

Perhaps he's not your 'type'.

[JoePass]

Open your eyes Soccerman, the Tories are well and truly f*cked, for a start, you still haven't said "in Rishi we trust"!

Perhaps he's not your 'type'.

lol. Just trying to keep up with how many more are turning their back on Sir Kneeler, aka Mr.Flip Flop. Still, he has his mate Corbyn to talk to, you know, that man he wanted as our PM….you just could not make this up. Lubbly jubbly.

[Elite_Pie]

lol. Just trying to keep up with how many more are turning their back on Sir Kneeler, aka Mr.Flip Flop. Still, he has his mate Corbyn to talk to, you know, that man he wanted as our PM….you just could not make this up. Lubbly jubbly.

How about we put words into money? I will match any stake you care to name that Labour get more seats than the Tories at the next election.

For regular readers, this is where Soccerman runs and hides.

[magpie_mania]

How about we put words into money? I will match any stake you care to name that Labour get more seats than the Tories at the next election.

For regular readers, this is where Soccerman runs and hides.

I am really surprised that he hasn't come out with, 'In Dave we trust' as he did so often from 2010 - 2016

[Magpies1959]

Although taken from such a miniscule amount of peoples voting intentions, it is very encouraging to see Reform with 10% of that figure.
I think there is scope for this to grow quite quickly now, with the Tories, and now Labour imploding. I think a lot of that Labour vote is from people who have been fed up with the Tories, so decided to just vote for someone different. However, with seeing Reform already having half the support of the Tories, and Labour in full squabble mode, their could be a big shift, especially with Farage getting good exposure to a different audience, in The Jungle, if he decides to jump aboard Richard Tice's ship.