O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[BigFatPie]

The two Manchester Airport thugs have pleaded guilty?

As you know you referred to two different cases, the riots during the summer and those inciting them, and also the incident at Manchester airport. Two completely different cases.

In only one of those situations have people been charged and pleaded guilty and seeing as though you brought them both up, you must know which one?

[Mapperleypie]

I see Tommy ten passports has also pleaded guilty to contempt of court.

It's political correctness gone mad!

[keldsyke]

As you know you referred to two different cases, the riots during the summer and those inciting them, and also the incident at Manchester airport. Two completely different cases.

We are getting there, if you look a bit deeper in your post you may see two cases of Two Tier Policing! Well done 👍🙂

[BigFatPie]

I see Tommy ten passports has also pleaded guilty to contempt of court.

It's political correctness gone mad!

Too teir Kier made Tommeh pleed gilty.

[BigFatPie]

We are getting there, if you look a bit deeper in your post you may see two cases of Two Tier Policing! Well done 👍🙂

Two completely different situations and cases are being treated completely differently by police and the justice system? Yes even you can understand that I suspect.

If you want to find a better comparison, see how the rioters in 2011 were treated. Courts open on a Saturday and summary justice. Under a Tory PM and DPP Kier Starmer.

[SinceSept1959]

Or the example of the 2022 Halton Moor riots ?
Some were previously dealt with by the Courts but the second round of sentencing, resulted in all the defendents receiving suspended sentences, despite having previous convictions and indulging in extreme acts of
violent behaviour to the police.
Not that difficult to understand the difference ?

[Med Pie]

Is nobody concerned about the abuse of UK law in applying anti terror legislation to TR's original detention at Dover. Under that legislation, it is actually an offence NOT to answer questions or allow inspection of your phone.

At least in America they have the 'probable cause' rule, where was that here?

[maddogslater]

It's disgraceful, judgement served by a lacky for MI6, also the original trial that was a farce. If the establishment comes for you it's like Putins Russia.

[SmiffyPie]

Let's face it, if you go against the current PC trend you are in the crap. Free speech? Only if it fits the bill (and yes, I get the whipping up hate thing, and agree with the reperccusions for such language).

[SmiffyPie]

From a purely laymans point of view that budget seems to me to be a balanced well thought out approach to the mess we appear to be in. Time will tell of course (and various differing opinions on here).

[bule1]

There are suppressed and delayed potential issues in there for me but not going to complain at the overall budget. The NI introduction level reduction for employers will hit jobs and/or wages. Not sure why energy (oil) companies were not hit in it unless there is a one off hit coming elsewhere. Again though overall well balanced

[Elite_Pie]

From a purely laymans point of view that budget seems to me to be a balanced well thought out approach to the mess we appear to be in. Time will tell of course (and various differing opinions on here).

I thought similar, I was expecting worse so it depends on how you think the Tories left the economy. If you think Labour inherited a mess then it's a good first step, if you think the black hole is a lie you'll think differently.

[bule1]

I thought similar, I was expecting worse so it depends on how you think the Tories left the economy. If you think Labour inherited a mess then it's a good first step, if you think the black hole is a lie you'll think differently.

In truth I think there was a black hole left by the Tories but heck have Labour widened or exaggerated it at the same time.

[Old_pie]

I thought similar, I was expecting worse so it depends on how you think the Tories left the economy. If you think Labour inherited a mess then it's a good first step, if you think the black hole is a lie you'll think differently.

I'm struggling to see where the growth is going to come from to fill the black hole. If the borrowed money doesn't get spent efficiently there will be a bigger black hole. Markets are not spooked and Farage and me are looking forward to the tax reduction on a proper pint though no doubt pubs will still have to put up their prices to cover their increased costs.

The new Office for Value for Money chair's first job should be to sack himself for failing to deliver VfM in the shape of HS2. I can imagine the derision on here from many had the tories created that office

[BigFatPie]

I’ve seen some figures that say it’s only the top 10% of wealth/incomes that will be worse through budget measures. Of course if you voted for Brexit you still have to accept that sovereignty’ needs paying for.