O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[LincsPie]

So we've got people denying "Non-crime hate" investigations are happening and that people are being sent to prison for social media posts. Wow.


Stage 1 - It's not happening

Stage 2 - It is happening but it's only extremists, this doesn't impact on normal people in any way

Stage 3 - Yes it is happening but it's a good thing

Stage 4 - The people complaining about it are just as bad and need to be dealt with

Do you mean 'people' on this board are denying or people in general?

Can you give an instance of someone who has been jailed for blasphemy against the official state religion if you mean Church of England?

I've been under the general impression that it's Christians who've challenged aspects of the influence of other religions in this country who've had the grief at employment tribunals and such like.

I was in town a couple of years ago and saw someone who had a hoodie with 'F**k Jesus' emblazoned on the back of it (not asterisked). I pointed this out to two of our finest who were stood warming their hands in their tool vests and they just said 'Leave it Sir, stop trying to cause trouble'

[Med Pie]

having previously admitted spreading disinformation about a child in order to incite racial hatred a[/B]nd I did not speak out because I was not in contempt of court having earlier spread disinformation about a child in order to incite racial hatred.

Scary times indeed.

Can you clarify to what and whom you refer?

If by any chance it's Tommy Robinson, he did not admit to spreading misinformation about any child or children, quite the opposite in fact. He did plead guilty to contempt of court because on the facts, it's was undeniable but he absolutely, sticks by the information he made public in his banned, film.

His film btw, had been shown in America, was and still is AFAIK, viewable on Youtube, a situation outside his control.

His film, revolved around hidden microphone recordings of people in the school system, I won't go further, I want to be at the game on Saturday.

[upthemaggies]

Do you mean 'people' on this board are denying or people in general?

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Both, and I don't mean blasphemy against the church of England, I mean blasphemy against the ideologies that are replacing it.

[upthemaggies]

First they came for the rioters that set fire to hotels housing foreign people and I did not speak out because I was not a rioter setting fire to hotels housing foreign people.

Then they came for those spreading racist disinformation to incite violence and I did not speak out because I was not a racist spreading disinformation to incite violence

Then they came for those in contempt of earlier court orders having previously admitted spreading disinformation about a child in order to incite racial hatred and I did not speak out because I was not in contempt of court having earlier spread disinformation about a child in order to incite racial hatred.

Scary times indeed.

Typical stage 2 reply.

[upthemaggies]

The case of Liverpool ****ager Chelsea Russell in 2018 for example should have applied the breaks. She was arrested, given a community order and had to pay a fine to a "victim" who had reported her to the police for posting rap song lyrics on instagram in tribute to a boy killed in a road traffic accident. A ban and the closing of her account by instagram may have been justified, but something like that has no business in a court of law.

What is the direction of travel here?
People defending this actually think they are the good guys, it's unreal.

[maddogslater]

Can you clarify to what and whom you refer?

If by any chance it's Tommy Robinson, he did not admit to spreading misinformation about any child or children, quite the opposite in fact. He did plead guilty to contempt of court because on the facts, it's was undeniable but he absolutely, sticks by the information he made public in his banned, film.

His film btw, had been shown in America, was and still is AFAIK, viewable on Youtube, a situation outside his control.

His film, revolved around hidden microphone recordings of people in the school system, I won't go further, I want to be at the game on Saturday.

Now you've gone and done it, 'stoopid' will be on the phone to report your none crime hate and a black helicopter will be arriving on your lawn shortly

[Mapperleypie]

Now you've gone and done it, 'stoopid' will be on the phone to report your none crime hate and a black helicopter will be arriving on your lawn shortly

Definitely another one who will be serving a lengthy prison sentence in the UK for 'blasphemy against the official state religion'.

Dropping like flies.

[BigFatPie]

Now you've gone and done it, 'stoopid' will be on the phone to report your none crime hate and a black helicopter will be arriving on your lawn shortly

Talking of stoopid, feed Tommeh?s kids for Christmas. And maybe also buy him a shed load of ching if there?s anything left.

https://www.givesendgo.com/tommy-robinson-children

[Lullapie]

So we've got people denying "Non-crime hate" investigations are happening and that people are being sent to prison for social media posts. Wow.


Stage 1 - It's not happening

Stage 2 - It is happening but it's only extremists, this doesn't impact on normal people in any way

Stage 3 - Yes it is happening but it's a good thing

Stage 4 - The people complaining about it are just as bad and need to be dealt with

It's always the same people. I don't think they stop and think before they post. There's no reason or fact in most of the stuff they write.

[Lullapie]

Both, and I don't mean blasphemy against the church of England, I mean blasphemy against the ideologies that are replacing it.

I read your comment to mean that - people challenging the state. Starmer set his plans out quite clearly when dealing with the civil unrest and the punishments dished out. Challenge the new boss and see where you end up. If it was Sunak or Johnson doing the same thing, the media and 'usuals' would be up in arms. Instead, they just become apologists and enablers.

[maddogslater]

What do you expect, don't worry though, just like in America people see through the gas lighting and he'll be gone next time never to return.

[BigFatPie]

The case of Liverpool ****ager Chelsea Russell in 2018 for example should have applied the breaks. She was arrested, given a community order and had to pay a fine to a "victim" who had reported her to the police for posting rap song lyrics on instagram in tribute to a boy killed in a road traffic accident. A ban and the closing of her account by instagram may have been justified, but something like that has no business in a court of law.

What is the direction of travel here?
People defending this actually think they are the good guys, it's unreal.

Well if a fairly ridiculous case from 6 years ago and a different government doesn?t convince you the rozzers are about to kick your doors in nothing will.

[maddogslater]

Talking of stoopid, feed Tommeh?s kids for Christmas. And maybe also buy him a shed load of ching if there?s anything left.

https://www.givesendgo.com/tommy-robinson-children

Dog whistle and 'stoopid ' comes running 😄

[BigFatPie]

Dog whistle and 'stoopid ' comes running ��

Come on how much have you given him? Be honest.

[upthemaggies]

and a different government .

Yes indeed, and the next Tory government. This is no left v right issue.

Whitney Webb.... "For all the people that still cheerlead for Javier Milei (Argentina), any comments on how his government has created a security agency to implement AI-driven "pre-crime"? Please explain to me how this is "libertad carajo", thanks.
For those that don't know, pre-crime was technically legalized under the last Trump administration via former AG Bill Barr. (Policy was continued and arguably expanded under Biden). JD Vance's benefactor Peter Thiel has major ties to firms seeking to implement pre-crime in the US, incl Palantir and the Thiel and Epstein-funded Carbyne"