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  • #46
    Donald Trump
    Jan 22:
    Trump: “It’s not a pandemic”

    Feb 26:
    Trump: “We’re going down (rate of infections], not up. Substantially down”

    Feb 28:
    Trump: “This is the new hoax”

    Mar 7:
    Trump: “I’m not concerned at all”

    Mar 9:
    Trump: “FAKE NEWS!”

    Yesterday: “I’ve always known this is a real pandemic”

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Bridg4d_Pie_ View Post
      We are already self isolating here in W. Bridg4d, my own health issues & of course Mrs Bridg4d is now on Oral Chemo for six months after her recent successful operation for Bowel Cancer, her immune system currently dictates that we would not have been socialising in the current circumstances anyway.
      Originally posted by upthemaggies View Post
      Donald Trump
      Jan 22:
      Trump: “It’s not a pandemic”

      Feb 26:
      Trump: “We’re going down (rate of infections], not up. Substantially down”

      Feb 28:
      Trump: “This is the new hoax”

      Mar 7:
      Trump: “I’m not concerned at all”

      Mar 9:
      Trump: “FAKE NEWS!”

      Yesterday: “I’ve always known this is a real pandemic”
      The man is despicable. Despite having time to send 10 or 20 tweets a day, play golf at his resort, hold election rallies every week, and so on, he puts his VP in charge so that if it goes tits up he can dodge responsibility.

      The other day he was asked why he disbanded the pandemic reaction team in 2018. He called it a nasty question and tried to say someone else in his administration did it without his knowledge.

      Video came out yesterday of him in 2018 justifying disbanding the pandemic team saying it was a waste of money and he could un-disband them whenever he wanted.

      His management of all this has been pretty much the same as everything else he does - lie, deflect, blame, cover up - and usually it works, because a man who got where he is by bullsh1tting people only needs to carry on bullsh1tting the same people who fell for his BS in the first place.

      But unfortunately for him you can't bullsh1t a virus, and I think this might be the end of the road for him. He was odds on to win the next election a month ago, now he's only evens, and the brown stuff hasn't even started to hit the fan yet.

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      • #48
        Apologies for quoting Bridg4d Pie!

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Old_pie View Post
          The Grauniad - 2005

          Kenneth Clarke: In Washington a week ago, Gordon Brown had an ill-tempered exchange with IMF staff because they said that he needed to raise taxes or cut spending to put the public finances in order.


          Oh, and was Brown the guy who said "I'm going to sell gold" triggering a price drop as investors saw a bargain on the horizon. Very clever - not. Ideological idiots who'd milk a cow to death instead of growing a herd.

          I asked you for contradictions to the idea that Gordon Brown handled the 2008 financial crisis well and you link to a 2005 article written by the previous Tory chancellor? Ok.

          To be fair, ‘he flogged our gold’ is usually the only response to why the last Labour wasn’t very good economically so you stick with it chief.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Bridg4d_Pie_ View Post
            We are already self isolating here in W. Bridg4d, my own health issues & of course Mrs Bridg4d is now on Oral Chemo for six months after her recent successful operation for Bowel Cancer, her immune system currently dictates that we would not have been socialising in the current circumstances anyway.
            All the best to you and Mrs BP.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by drillerpie View Post
              The man is despicable. Despite having time to send 10 or 20 tweets a day, play golf at his resort, hold election rallies every week, and so on, he puts his VP in charge so that if it goes tits up he can dodge responsibility.

              The other day he was asked why he disbanded the pandemic reaction team in 2018. He called it a nasty question and tried to say someone else in his administration did it without his knowledge.

              Video came out yesterday of him in 2018 justifying disbanding the pandemic team saying it was a waste of money and he could un-disband them whenever he wanted.

              His management of all this has been pretty much the same as everything else he does - lie, deflect, blame, cover up - and usually it works, because a man who got where he is by bullsh1tting people only needs to carry on bullsh1tting the same people who fell for his BS in the first place.

              But unfortunately for him you can't bullsh1t a virus, and I think this might be the end of the road for him. He was odds on to win the next election a month ago, now he's only evens, and the brown stuff hasn't even started to hit the fan yet.
              I really hope it’s the end for him, but you only have to read this board to know that he could, as he said, still shoot people on 5th Avenue and his base would go for it. Plus, Joe Biden isn’t exactly the most inspiring of candidates.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Bridg4d_Pie_ View Post
                We are already self isolating here in W. Bridg4d, my own health issues & of course Mrs Bridg4d is now on Oral Chemo for six months after her recent successful operation for Bowel Cancer, her immune system currently dictates that we would not have been socialising in the current circumstances anyway.
                All the best to you both Bridg4d ........ I understand the situation only too well and delighted Mrs B's op was successful.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Bridg4d_Pie_ View Post
                  We are already self isolating here in W. Bridg4d, my own health issues & of course Mrs Bridg4d is now on Oral Chemo for six months after her recent successful operation for Bowel Cancer, her immune system currently dictates that we would not have been socialising in the current circumstances anyway.
                  I'm rooting for you, Bridg4d, and if he was still with us I know Magwales would be too. Tough days but sure you can come through them. El Sid.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Elite_Pie View Post
                    On a similar note:

                    "Margaret Thatcher squandered billions from North Sea oil on a short-term consumer boom when she should have invested it, Lord Heseltine told Holyrood last night. The former defence secretary said the focus on personal consumption, fuelled by tax breaks, was a key failing of the “Thatcher philosophy”. He said: “This country over consumes and under invests. If I have a criticism, which I do, of the Thatcher philosophy... they had the incredible windfall of North Sea oil and basically it was spent on consumer boom".
                    Heseltine was at the heart of that government, but never forgave the Tory Party for not electing him leader . I remember him reminiscing on his early business life, and being asked how he kept his head above water, and succeeded . His philosophy was that if he was pressed for cash he sent the supplier's cheques out but didn't sign them. That must have helped " small business" no end .

                    In 1992 Heseltine closed 31 of British Coal's 50 pits with the loss of 30,000 jobs. A large number of the the mines were in Nottinghamshire, perhaps he might have considered investing instead of whinging 30 years later . He continues to be a legend in his own mind.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Notsohumblepie View Post
                      Heseltine was at the heart of that government, but never forgave the Tory Party for not electing him leader . I remember him reminiscing on his early business life, and being asked how he kept his head above water, and succeeded . His philosophy was that if he was pressed for cash he sent the supplier's cheques out but didn't sign them. That must have helped " small business" no end .

                      In 1992 Heseltine closed 31 of British Coal's 50 pits with the loss of 30,000 jobs. A large number of the the mines were in Nottinghamshire, perhaps he might have considered investing instead of whinging 30 years later . He continues to be a legend in his own mind.
                      He was a Tory, of course he was scum. The point he was making was that Thatcher was scum of a higher order.

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                      • #56
                        Lower order, surely?

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by frenchmagpie View Post
                          He was a Tory, of course he was scum. The point he was making was that Thatcher was scum of a higher order.
                          Where is Soccerman when he's needed?

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                          • #58
                            Snipers taking up positions on rooftops on our street - apparently the rules of engagement are “if he looks over 70 - shoot” 🤧

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Notsohumblepie View Post
                              Heseltine was at the heart of that government, but never forgave the Tory Party for not electing him leader . I remember him reminiscing on his early business life, and being asked how he kept his head above water, and succeeded . His philosophy was that if he was pressed for cash he sent the supplier's cheques out but didn't sign them. That must have helped " small business" no end .

                              In 1992 Heseltine closed 31 of British Coal's 50 pits with the loss of 30,000 jobs. A large number of the the mines were in Nottinghamshire, perhaps he might have considered investing instead of whinging 30 years later . He continues to be a legend in his own mind.
                              Nice one. You don't like what you read, so you attack the person who said it and completely ignore what he actually said! The Heseltine quote was just one option I picked from a Google search. I suggest you do one yourself (just put 'Thatcher North Sea oil') because there are loads. You will then be left with the option of discrediting every other source, or admitting that on this occasion Heseltine was spot on.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by drillerpie View Post
                                Apologies for quoting Bridg4d Pie!
                                Accepted driller no problems from me.

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