O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[i961pie]

If only winning a decent majority was some guarantee that a government would be any good at governing. This Tory government is the worst since the last one. I saw Tony Blair on tv this morning with clear, coherent strategies on how the current mess could somehow be mitigated.
Anyone who doesn’t think he would still do a massively better job than the current idiot is smoking some serious sh!t.

Blair was a very good PM until Iraq then it went downhill from there unfortunately. Piers Morgan had a good idea (imo) which was to get all the former PMs together forgetting politics and use their experience that they had when fighting other viruses like Ebola etc.

[navypie]

If only winning a decent majority was some guarantee that a government would be any good at governing. This Tory government is the worst since the last one. I saw Tony Blair on tv this morning with clear, coherent strategies on how the current mess could somehow be mitigated.
Anyone who doesn’t think he would still do a massively better job than the current idiot is smoking some serious sh!t.

I agree. I'll tell you sum-hut else, Notts would never had gone down if I'd have been at the helm.

[Elite_Pie]

It’s a majority Government, is that not simple enough? Comparing election numbers against a yes or no vote that we had in the referendum is not a feasible argument. I wonder how the voting would have gone had it been BoJo v Corbyn? My view is it would have been a landslide and a more dominant one sided Tory Government. Be thankful that is not the case and there are those from other parties that are able to argue and challenge in Parliament.

Do you have a degree in Statingthebleedingobvious? My comment was aimed at seriouspie's statement that "The fact is - Boris and his lads are here for the long haul and the majority of ordinary Brits (the ones that count) want it that way". His 'factual' statement was anything but factual - nobody knows how long Boris is here for, and the majority of Brits didn't vote for his party at the last election. I must have missed the bit on the ballot paper where you were required to state whether you were an "ordinary Brit" or not.

[seriouspie]

Again

1. Who mentioned the Brexit vote? Not me, that's done and dusted and now honoured as it should have been much earlier.

2. Your opinion which you are entitled to but even this far in advance I'll lay you half a grand Boris will win the next GE. ( what say you?)

3. Slowly read Notts78 view and digest. Nothing prejudiced, just a few factual remarks and a better reply than my original.

Anyway must close now and drive over to Norwood Park for a stroll around and check the carp lake as the weathers improving and it's
time to get the rods out again. I need a few hours relaxation to unscramble my brain after trying to fathom out how your's works!

[seriouspie]

Blair was a very good PM until Iraq then it went downhill from there unfortunately. Piers Morgan had a good idea (imo) which was to get all the former PMs together forgetting politics and use their experience that they had when fighting other viruses like Ebola etc.

Morgan's back on air then? I'd heard he'd been in hospital after having got his head stuck up his own arse. I'll give the bloke one thing however, he is the perfect example of a guy being sacked from a high profile job and reinventing himself to no doubt earn far more money than had he stayed a newspaper editor.

[Elite_Pie]

3. Slowly read Notts78 view and digest. Nothing prejudiced, just a few factual remarks and a better reply than my original.

Your statement was your personal opinion, it was definitely not factual as I explained. What bit didn't you understand?

[seriouspie]

If only winning a decent majority was some guarantee that a government would be any good at governing. This Tory government is the worst since the last one. I saw Tony Blair on tv this morning with clear, coherent strategies on how the current mess could somehow be mitigated.
Anyone who doesn’t think he would still do a massively better job than the current idiot is smoking some serious sh!t.

I don't smoke fags anymore ........... and know nothing about smoking dope. So tell me boy in a few simple words why this government so bad ... if you have the brain that is. Admit you hate the Tories and why ..... have they harmed you this past few months? .... go on, tell me.

[seriouspie]

Your statement was your personal opinion, it was definitely not factual as I explained. What bit didn't you understand?

Have said my bit and you've said yours....end of.

[SwalePie]

Have said my bit and you've said yours....end of.

Oh, if only that was the way NCM worked these days

[Elite_Pie]

Have said my bit and you've said yours....end of.

Fine by me, but try to understand the difference between opinion and fact in future.

ps I've just realised I didn't reply to your offer of a bet in point 2. I have to decline, on the grounds that you appear once again to be mistaking me for one of those 'losers' that you and Soccerman regularly mention. Why would I take an even money bet with you when I can get 6/4 online?

[BigFatPie]

I don't smoke fags anymore ........... and know nothing about smoking dope. So tell me boy in a few simple words why this government so bad ... if you have the brain that is. Admit you hate the Tories and why ..... have they harmed you this past few months? .... go on, tell me.

10 years of austerity, life expectancies stalling for the first time in over a century, record levels of government debt. In the current crisis, 41,000 deaths, lack of PPE, lack of testing, lack of nurses to staff new ‘hospitals’. They’re off the top of my head. Boy.

I should give credit to Sunak’s measures which have been welcomed, but obviously we won’t know whether they’ve been effective or not until we get back to some sort of ‘normal’.

It’s interesting as well that you think because I have no regard for the Tory government I must have been personally harmed by them. A little insight into the selfish way you view the world.

[metrocab]

Blair was a very good PM until Iraq then it went downhill from there unfortunately. Piers Morgan had a good idea (imo) which was to get all the former PMs together forgetting politics and use their experience that they had when fighting other viruses like Ebola etc.

Blair should be in prison not on tv

[seriouspie]

10 years of austerity, life expectancies stalling for the first time in over a century, record levels of government debt. In the current crisis, 41,000 deaths, lack of PPE, lack of testing, lack of nurses to staff new ‘hospitals’. They’re off the top of my head. Boy.

I should give credit to Sunak’s measures which have been welcomed, but obviously we won’t know whether they’ve been effective or not until we get back to some sort of ‘normal’.

It’s interesting as well that you think because I have no regard for the Tory government I must have been personally harmed by them. A little insight into the selfish way you view the world.

Life 'expectancies' may be stalling? I thought it common knowledge we were all living longer and that in itself can cause problems. Yes?

Record levels of government debt? who spent all the loot that triggered austerity? The socialists. Yes?

This Chinese plague. Your bunch of so called MP's would have astounded the world and taken all the correct decisions even though not having had experience of such a fast moving virus and it's consequences. No?. I think the speed of building the field hospitals was a credit to the government, the armed forces and all who participated in the projects. Is there a shortage of nurses to staff them now? No? Lack of testing will be sorted as will your remaining "off the top of my head" remarks. Glad you mentioned our new Chancellor, you are looking at Boris's successor when he packs it in. This guys got more intelligence, more presence than the whole of your lot's "shadows" put together.

I could if needs be make remarks about how you view the world boy (note no full stops or capital 'B') but really it's best summed up in the time honoured phrase "the politics of envy" and not all this crap of a 'caring society' which is only being sought by the Socialists.

[Elite_Pie]

I could if needs be make remarks about how you view the world boy (note no full stops or capital 'B') but really it's best summed up in the time honoured phrase "the politics of envy".

You and Soccerman regularly use that time-honoured phrase to describe me.

Will either of you tell me what it is I'm apparently envious of ?

[BigFatPie]

You and Soccerman regularly use that time-honoured phrase to describe me.

Will either of you tell me what it is I'm apparently envious of ?

Don’t forget Elite, if they thought you were richer than them, you’d then be a ‘champagne socialist’.

They learn these phrases from The Sun/Daily Mail it’s what they have instead of logic and reason.