O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[magpie_mania]

I don't dislike Starmer he could make a good leader compared to the last Loon. He also appears a presentable statesman if the party's far left fail to convince him of their policies. Making Boris squirm? .... in your dreams son. Don't forget he was one of the biggest advocates of us remaining in the Customs union and single market which in effect would have kept us 'in' the EU. The British public don't forget things like that and it'll always be in Boris's armour that Starmer couldn't make a firm decision and became a ditherer. But of course all this doesn't matter in the greater scheme of things does it? The Tories have an unassailable majority. You don't think so - naturally .... but Boris is an enigmatic leader who has pulled the Tories together and with this majority as well, he can do the hell what he likes and has the time to do it in. In a way I feel sorry for Starmer .... he himself has admitted there's a mountain to climb to get Labour back on track, not damage by what he's done but by the insane idiots that preceded him.


ps Substitute 'Greedy' for 'Ruthless' if you think it sounds better - although it's basically the same in the context I meant it to be.

He will make him squirm at PMQ. KS will be a different challenge from what JC was.

Take away 'Get Brexit done' and I am not sure what Boris has left. Don't forget that there will be the inquest into how the Govt handled the Coronavirus crisis he will have to deal with. BJ may have the goodwill of the majority of the public at the moment but the longer the lockdown goes on, will that goodwill hold?

[applepie]

He will make him squirm at PMQ. KS will be a different challenge from what JC was.

Take away 'Get Brexit done' and I am not sure what Boris has left. Don't forget that there will be the inquest into how the Govt handled the Coronavirus crisis he will have to deal with. BJ may have the goodwill of the majority of the public at the moment but the longer the lockdown goes on, will that goodwill hold?

The public enquiry we can expect will, unfortunately, be made to drag on for years, if previous (and current - Grenfell) ones are anything to go by. This is one of the ways politicians manage criticism.

[sidders]

I have to say that surprisingly, i am impressed with the leadership provided by Boris and his team in the daily COVID-19 briefings, especially the new Chancellor Rishi Sunak, this guy is a revelation. Prof Chris Whitty, the government's chief medical adviser, and chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance are doing a good job providing the medical & scientific aspects of the virus. I believe they all are being honest, frank and as decisive as they can be facing this dreadful world-changing virus. I just wish they would not allow the lowlife gutter press particularly the Sun, Mirror & Daily star at these briefings who ask the most bazaar and stupid questions just to try and get a headline. These are strange and frightening times unknown by pretty much most of us, almost a war-like situation but it is what it is and at times like this the leadership being shown is just what the Country needs.

Hmmm, you should be a little bit embarrassed by your early verdict on this government's 'leadership, don't you think, Banjo?

[seriouspie]

Hmmm, you should be a little bit embarrassed by your early verdict on this government's 'leadership, don't you think, Banjo?

Another Hmmm ...... Time and events do alter a person's opinion and always have done. Nobody on here loathed Corbyn/McDonnell more than me, in my opinion just two class warriors acting like unpatriotic C'nts and in my view at least showing the public what far left Socialism views mean ...... and it rightly got them obliterated. I called Starmer a stumer, and worse a few weeks ago but after seeing him take the reins I've altered (so far) my view of the man. He appears more statesmanlike than ever his predecessor was and although still appearing stiff and lacking Boris's charisma, will I think, make a decent leader of the opposition.

[seriouspie]

Interestingly, that's probably one of the primary reasons why he'll be popular and possibly successful. Remember that both sides of the public 'don't forget things like that'.

Aye but one side keep continually losing so it matters not.

[BigFatPie]

Hmmm, you should be a little bit embarrassed by your early verdict on this government's 'leadership, don't you think, Banjo?

Banjo shot his load before he’d even managed to get his trousers off.

[Elite_Pie]

I've just heard on the news that we might end up with the highest death toll in the whole of Europe. If it does end up like that, I wonder if Banjo will still be "impressed with the leadership"?

At least seriouspie will be proved right, he always said that Boris was a leader.

[jackal2]

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

[maddogslater]

The Russian and Chinese figures look hard to believe

[Mapperleypie]

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

This is all very well and good but the UK stats only include deaths in hospitals where the deceased has tested +ve for COVID-19. Kind of renders the 21k a bit of a red-herring.

[BigFatPie]

This is all very well and good but the UK stats only include deaths in hospitals where the deceased has tested +ve for COVID-19. Kind of renders the 21k a bit of a red-herring.

The 21k figure is bullsh!t. Some sources report that the excess deaths figure means the covid figure is somewhere in the region of 45,000+.

[navypie]

The 21k figure is bullsh!t. Some sources report that the excess deaths figure means the covid figure is somewhere in the region of 45,000+.

I wonder how many when this reaches sid.

[seriouspie]

I've just heard on the news that we might end up with the highest death toll in the whole of Europe. If it does end up like that, I wonder if Banjo will still be "impressed with the leadership"?

At least seriouspie will be proved right, he always said that Boris was a leader.

Correct .... and the Broxtowe Socialist will once more ....... get the wooden spoon loser's award.

[Old_pie]

This is all very well and good but the UK stats only include deaths in hospitals where the deceased has tested +ve for COVID-19. Kind of renders the 21k a bit of a red-herring.

On what basis are the other countries on that list recording C19 deaths? I had a quick look but couldn't see.

I am assuming you, like every other man and his dog except for a few on here, know that at least two sets of figures are released for the UK.

[Elite_Pie]

Correct .... and the Broxtowe Socialist will once more ....... get the wooden spoon loser's award.

I would suggest that those who have lost their lives through government failings are the losers.

Obviously your values are different.