O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[upthemaggies]

What ever your political persuasion I fear for Boris.
He looks terrible, black eyes and bags underneath he looks ill.

May or may not be related but....

Given the multi-organ effect of COVID-19 on the body, survivors may have a variety of long-term effects on their organs.....
As we are still in the throes of the pandemic, and at a relatively early stage of a new disease, it is too early to tell what COVID-19 survivors are likely to experience in a year’s time. Some researchers are concerned, however, that just as with SARS, many people with the new coronavirus will go on to develop post-viral chronic fatigue syndrome.
The uncertainty of the future for COVID-19 survivors is why several long-term cohort studies (that study genetic and environmental factors in large groups over a period of time) have been repurposed to study the physical, mental and socio-economic consequences of the pandemic.

Of 43 patients analysed, 10 had brain disease with delirium or psychosis, 12 had inflammation, and nine had acute disseminated encephalomyelitis (a rare neurological disorder which results in swelling in the brain and spinal cord). Eight had strokes and a further eight had peripheral nerve problems.


So whilst we can't rule out exaggerated numbers of fatalities, this virus could still turn out to have very serious lasting effects on people.

[Elite_Pie]

Looks like any new dad having to lead his country through a pandemic to me.

No problem, Cummings is the man leading the country. All Boris has to do is rehearse his lines, shake his fist a lot and look vaguely competent.

He's not even managing that, but maybe it's a problem with his eyesight. He should probably go for a drive with his partner and kid to test it.

[macstop]

This is worth a watch as well. 'Professor Carl Heneghan is Director of the Centre for Evidence Based Medicine at Oxford University'.One of the chaps who uncovered the NHE, 'anomaly'.

Thanks for that CG, there is quite a lot of people now coming forward with excellent analysis, on the data we now have.

But my fear is when the Autumn comes and the dreaded flu hits, are they going to count flu victims as Covid, thus this is how they know there will be a second wave, forcing us into a vaccine that is not properly been tested?

It's like something out of a SiFi movie, the body snatchers

[magpie_mania]

May or may not be related but....

Given the multi-organ effect of COVID-19 on the body, survivors may have a variety of long-term effects on their organs.....
As we are still in the throes of the pandemic, and at a relatively early stage of a new disease, it is too early to tell what COVID-19 survivors are likely to experience in a year’s time. Some researchers are concerned, however, that just as with SARS, many people with the new coronavirus will go on to develop post-viral chronic fatigue syndrome.
The uncertainty of the future for COVID-19 survivors is why several long-term cohort studies (that study genetic and environmental factors in large groups over a period of time) have been repurposed to study the physical, mental and socio-economic consequences of the pandemic.

Of 43 patients analysed, 10 had brain disease with delirium or psychosis, 12 had inflammation, and nine had acute disseminated encephalomyelitis (a rare neurological disorder which results in swelling in the brain and spinal cord). Eight had strokes and a further eight had peripheral nerve problems.


So whilst we can't rule out exaggerated numbers of fatalities, this virus could still turn out to have very serious lasting effects on people.

Post-viral chronic fatigue syndrome.

If he has got anything like I had (not after Covid, a different viral illness) there is no way he should be leading us through this.

[countygump]

Thanks for that CG, there is quite a lot of people now coming forward with excellent analysis, on the data we now have.

But my fear is when the Autumn comes and the dreaded flu hits, are they going to count flu victims as Covid, thus this is how they know there will be a second wave, forcing us into a vaccine that is not properly been tested?

It's like something out of a SiFi movie, the body snatchers

Seems the daily fatality figures have now been suspended:




Professor Karol Sikora
@ProfKarolSikora
The Government has announced that the daily fatality figure will be suspended until the issue with PHE is resolved.

I think that's a wise move. What a shambles.

Anyway, another busy week done. Looking forward to a quiet evening with my wife. Have a good evening everyone!
6:35 PM · Jul 17, 2020·Twitter Web App

[navypie]

No problem, Cummings is the man leading the country. All Boris has to do is rehearse his lines, shake his fist a lot and look vaguely competent.

He's not even managing that, but maybe it's a problem with his eyesight. He should probably go for a drive with his partner and kid to test it.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[countygump]

They just can't leave that bloody statue base alone!!!

[macstop]

Seems the daily fatality figures have now been suspended:




Professor Karol Sikora
@ProfKarolSikora
The Government has announced that the daily fatality figure will be suspended until the issue with PHE is resolved.

I think that's a wise move. What a shambles.

Anyway, another busy week done. Looking forward to a quiet evening with my wife. Have a good evening everyone!
6:35 PM · Jul 17, 2020·Twitter Web App

Can't fault ya mate

[countygump]

Again really interesting. Epidemiologists talk masks, epidemic strategies, and possible protections for future epidemics.

[optipez]

Freddie Sayers has been hands down the best journalist throughout this. He's listened to experts, given them plenty of time to get their points over and questioned them thoughtfully. Why he's on Unherd, a minority news channel is a mystery to me. The BBC is funded well enough with enough channels and airtime to do this kind of thing.
The BBC, Sky and the cretinous Peston on ITV should all hang their heads in shame at their collectively risible efforts throughout. The commissioners and editors should be hauled over hot coals for failing at a time of national crisis to make anything as remotely impartial and informative as Sayers has consistently managed over the last few months.

[countygump]

It's a lie.

Masks do work.

[navypie]

It's a lie.

Masks do work.


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I'm starting to think that you like taking the p1ss.

[countygump]

Freddie Sayers has been hands down the best journalist throughout this. He's listened to experts, given them plenty of time to get their points over and questioned them thoughtfully. Why he's on Unherd, a minority news channel is a mystery to me. The BBC is funded well enough with enough channels and airtime to do this kind of thing.
The BBC, Sky and the cretinous Peston on ITV should all hang their heads in shame at their collectively risible efforts throughout. The commissioners and editors should be hauled over hot coals for failing at a time of national crisis to make anything as remotely impartial and informative as Sayers has consistently managed over the last few months.

Another excellent interview from the young man.

[optipez]

[QUOTE=countygump;39535382]Another excellent interview from the young man.

I've watched quite a few over the last couple of months, in fact I usually read a couple of Unherd articles each week. I like them because they aren't overly partisan and aren't doing the Piers Morgan sensationalist thing, not just on Covid but in general. It's how journalism as opposed to activism is supposed to work. It seems to be out of fashion but it's lead to most people zoning out and the loud partisan few that stick it out shouting across the battlements at each other.
Pretty much like every political thread on here.

[BanjoPie]

“I don’t believe it”