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O/T:- Trump Presidency 2.0 [hic sunt dracones]
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Trump only understand money. Tarriffs =US income. Greenland = US exploit rare earth minerals. Ukraine = Give US rare earths or no support. Panama = US Supply costs. Immigration = US social costs. Gaza on the Med = US control (Money? no sure about that one).
No sure if it's all bluff and counterbluff but a stateman? never in a million years. Mind you he wasn't elected to be a statesman was he, we have enough of that breed as it is.
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Gaza= Real estate for him to develop... not all US policy is aimed at supporting the US - Trump first, then the country.Originally posted by SmiffyPie View PostTrump only understand money. Tarriffs =US income. Greenland = US exploit rare earth minerals. Ukraine = Give US rare earths or no support. Panama = US Supply costs. Immigration = US social costs. Gaza on the Med = US control (Money? no sure about that one).
No sure if it's all bluff and counterbluff but a stateman? never in a million years. Mind you he wasn't elected to be a statesman was he, we have enough of that breed as it is.
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For any fool tempted to equivocate, imagine if your homeland, where generations of your family before you had lived, was going to be taken over by a faraway foreign power, allied to your avowed enemies, with you kicked out to a place of their choosing. Nottinghamshire's about 6 times bigger than Gaza, but let's imagine the suggestion was to empty out Nottinghamshire and 'own it'Originally posted by Kent Magpie View PostGaza= Real estate for him to develop... not all US policy is aimed at supporting the US - Trump first, then the country.
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For comparison, Gaza is just a little smaller than the Borough of Rushcliffe.Originally posted by the_anticlough View PostFor any fool tempted to equivocate, imagine if your homeland, where generations of your family before you had lived, was going to be taken over by a faraway foreign power, allied to your avowed enemies, with you kicked out to a place of their choosing. Nottinghamshire's about 6 times bigger than Gaza, but let's imagine the suggestion was to empty out Nottinghamshire and 'own it'
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Blokes a borderline psychopath, but it?s fascinating to watch, some things he?s done I agree with others not. Tariffs a sledgehammer to crack a nut will work on some but not others, as others have said he?ll look at how the markets react, wants to bring back manufacturing but it?ll take years to build the capability.
How poor must the other side have been for him to get back in? Some folks take exception to being called bigots and friends of the Austrian painter and being told what to do and say just because they have some differing political opinions.
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I was just saying that is what is in it for Trump, not how practical it would be to do. It would cause chaos, but what just saying it does is make a 2 state solution less likely, and so extent the conflict on and on.Originally posted by the_anticlough View PostFor any fool tempted to equivocate, imagine if your homeland, where generations of your family before you had lived, was going to be taken over by a faraway foreign power, allied to your avowed enemies, with you kicked out to a place of their choosing. Nottinghamshire's about 6 times bigger than Gaza, but let's imagine the suggestion was to empty out Nottinghamshire and 'own it'
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I?d say Blair did that before Johnson with the weapons of mass destruction lies, but you won?t want to hear that as it doesn?t fit with your agenda.Originally posted by Elite_Pie View PostThe way the Tories, and Boris Johnson in particular mishandled Brexit. For centuries Great Britain had a global reputation for honesty, decency and compassion. Johnson and co trashed that.
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I don't think the Australian aborigines or the American Indians or the poor people that became slaves would think England was a country of decency and compassion.Originally posted by keldsyke View PostI?d say Blair did that before Johnson with the weapons of mass destruction lies, but you won?t want to hear that as it doesn?t fit with your agenda.
We discovered and claimed new lands and slaughted anyone that got in the way.I
That was way before Blair and Boris stepped in.
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Yaaawn, the boring old "well Blair was worse" diversion. Whether Blair was worse or not, Johnson trashed our reputation as an honest nation with the way he lied his way through Brexit and Covid. If pinning it on Blair makes you sleep easier, then go ahead by all meansOriginally posted by keldsyke View PostI?d say Blair did that before Johnson with the weapons of mass destruction lies, but you won?t want to hear that as it doesn?t fit with your agenda.
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