O/T:- Trump Presidency 2.0 [hic sunt dracones]

[OchPie]

I was under the illusion that there was an embargo on all Russian goods so there should be nothing to tax?

Not completely, the US still imported some fertiliser and metals. But a relatively tiny amount - maybe a couple of billion dollars worth.

[i961pie]

Not completely, the US still imported some fertiliser and metals. But a relatively tiny amount - maybe a couple of billion dollars worth.

He was going to stop the war in 1 day? Mind you He didn't say which day.

[Mapperleypie]

It?s instructive that the people punting those images around the internet never post the whole video of those politicians. More misleading nonsense.

Straight out of the Bannon playbook of 'flooding the zone with 5hit'

[MarcusCole]

It?s instructive that the people punting those images around the internet never post the whole video of those politicians. More misleading nonsense.

Your side does it it is taken out of context. The side you hate does it it's proof enough.

[Lullapie]

Your side does it it is taken out of context. The side you hate does it it's proof enough.

100% Marcus. It's all about how someone sees it and if they have only one eye, they only see it one way.

[Lullapie]

Not completely, the US still imported some fertiliser and metals. But a relatively tiny amount - maybe a couple of billion dollars worth.

I like it.

Russian goods are still being sold in the US. They are just being distributed through third/fourth parties to avoid any embargo.

The previous administration knew all about it, but did nothing to stop it.


I bet Trump's team will find 'get outs' for both Russia and Ukraine to start talking and bring about a cessation. The US will possibly threaten them with a few more financial barriers too (that won't eventuate) if they don't agree to get around 'the table'.

[Lullapie]

No I think common sense individuals see it for what it is.

We can speculate about the reasons why he did it and what it says about him, but he did it. The from the heart gesture was what he did when he spoke about the heart - putting his palm on his heart. What came before that was a double Nazi / Roman (used by Italian fascists) salute and there's no doubt in my mind about that. Just look at the expression on his face.

It would be a great ploy for Musk to do the Nazi salute, just a week after visiting Auschwitz with that other well known anti-Jewish Nazi, Ben Shapiro.

I would hazard a guess that being Jewish is far more important to Shapiro than his following of capitalism.

Shapiro, who as I far as I understand has no connection to any far-right, antisemitic, pro-Nazi groups, spoke up for Musk and called out the hysteria of the left-wing media.

The same as the Anti-Defamation League, who also backed Musk. Again, Musk has been in a long running feud with the ADL prior to his 'gesture', but they backed him, saying that it was just over-enthusiasm.



There's a saying that the best thing for left-wing media is a right-wing government. I'm not sure if that is still true in the US. MSNBC are in huge financial trouble, with dramatic drops in ratings and next week, CNN are going to lay off 6% of its workforce as ratings for them drop too.

Americans are getting bored with their unbalance and made up journalism and fantasy stories.

[BigFatPie]

Your side does it it is taken out of context. The side you hate does it it's proof enough.

There’s the real world isn’t there Marcus, and then there’s the one you and Dopey Drawers from NZ inhabit. For the avoidance of doubt, here’s all those clips of Dem politicians in full.

https://x.com/amoneyresists/status/1882204272760426511?s=61&t=E9LLIjMcHIguMs7uVNF98Q

I’m very confident you’ll both be admitting you were wrong really soon.

[Mud Pie]

It would be a great ploy for Musk to do the Nazi salute, just a week after visiting Auschwitz with that other well known anti-Jewish Nazi, Ben Shapiro.

I would hazard a guess that being Jewish is far more important to Shapiro than his following of capitalism.

Shapiro, who as I far as I understand has no connection to any far-right, antisemitic, pro-Nazi groups, spoke up for Musk and called out the hysteria of the left-wing media.

The same as the Anti-Defamation League, who also backed Musk. Again, Musk has been in a long running feud with the ADL prior to his 'gesture', but they backed him, saying that it was just over-enthusiasm.



There's a saying that the best thing for left-wing media is a right-wing government. I'm not sure if that is still true in the US. MSNBC are in huge financial trouble, with dramatic drops in ratings and next week, CNN are going to lay off 6% of its workforce as ratings for them drop too.

Americans are getting bored with their unbalance and made up journalism and fantasy stories.

breitbart?

[Lullapie]

breitbart?

No, I think they are doing ok. I know the conjecture is that they are right-wing, but actually read some of their articles. Their headlines definitely aren't all pro-Republican. Then look at MSNBC, CNN and NBC (another network laying off staff). It's verging on media hysteria on their part. Forbes is another one like Breitbart. They release videos that are pro-Republican, but their news network is much more even-handed.


Carrying this on, Trump signs off today the release of the JFK, RFK and MLK assassination files.

For me, who is fascinated by the Kennedy empire, it could be really interesting, but then again, I think there could be so much redacted that they'll be useless.

However, if there is nothing in the release that is groundbreaking, why the hell have successive US governments refused to release all the information?

I have looked forward to this more than anything and have carried out my JFK pilgrimage over the years, so I eagerly await the news prepared to be severely disappointed.

[Mud Pie]

No, I think they are doing ok. I know the conjecture is that they are right-wing, but actually read some of their articles. Their headlines definitely aren't all pro-Republican. Then look at MSNBC, CNN and NBC (another network laying off staff). It's verging on media hysteria on their part.


Carrying this on, Trump signs off today the release of the JFK, RFK and MLK assassination files.

For me, who is fascinated by the Kennedy empire, it could be really interesting, but then again, I think there could be so much redacted that they'll be useless.

However, if there is nothing in the release that is groundbreaking, why the hell have successive US governments refused to release all the information?

I have looked forward to this more than anything and have carried out my JFK pilgrimage over the years, so I eagerly await the news prepared to be severely disappointed.

I mean breitbart and Ben Shapiro... are they cleaning themselves up these days?

[ThePieWhoCameIn]

It would be a great ploy for Musk to do the Nazi salute, just a week after visiting Auschwitz with that other well known anti-Jewish Nazi, Ben Shapiro.

If I was a conspiracy theorist, I'd theorise that Musk was at Auschwitz doing research. He's been tasked by Uncle Donald with coming up with a final solution for all those undocumented migrants.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist though, so that's a relief.

[Lullapie]

I mean breitbart and Ben Shapiro... are they cleaning themselves up these days?

Ben Shapiro was ardent anti-Trump. He voted for Clinton in 2016, but I don't know what changed.

He says he later saw Trump in a different light and understood the things that Trump was doing. I think that's how many of the world view him.

I listen to Ben Shapiro a bit. I like his depth and quality of debate. I also have listened to Steve Schmidt and the Lincoln Project. They put many valid arguments forward too.

With regards to Breitbart, my earlier comments stand. The world has gone that far left over the last few years, exacerbated by the Covid era which legalised state control in the democratic world, that those that were centre, have been made to look right-wing. What the left-wing forget is that the majority of voting public in democratic countries are centrist. They feel abandoned and the political spectrum change in the world we are now experiencing is a reflection of this. You can only push them so far.

Who'd have though that a few years ago, there would have been people that would argue that there's more genders than male and female, that men could legally use female toilets and take part in female sports. The messed up thing about those examples are that it is the hard out feminists who are defending the right of men to be called women and vice-versa.

That's just one example of how as a society we have changed, and in my opinion, have regressed.

[Lullapie]

If I was a conspiracy theorist, I'd theorise that Musk was at Auschwitz doing research. He's been tasked by Uncle Donald with coming up with a final solution for all those undocumented migrants.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist though, so that's a relief.

Great post. I'm sure the world of evil would find more efficient ways to do that today than what the Nazis left.

[drillerpie]

It would be a great ploy for Musk to do the Nazi salute, just a week after visiting Auschwitz with that other well known anti-Jewish Nazi, Ben Shapiro.

I would hazard a guess that being Jewish is far more important to Shapiro than his following of capitalism.

Shapiro, who as I far as I understand has no connection to any far-right, antisemitic, pro-Nazi groups, spoke up for Musk and called out the hysteria of the left-wing media.

The same as the Anti-Defamation League, who also backed Musk. Again, Musk has been in a long running feud with the ADL prior to his 'gesture', but they backed him, saying that it was just over-enthusiasm.



There's a saying that the best thing for left-wing media is a right-wing government. I'm not sure if that is still true in the US. MSNBC are in huge financial trouble, with dramatic drops in ratings and next week, CNN are going to lay off 6% of its workforce as ratings for them drop too.

Americans are getting bored with their unbalance and made up journalism and fantasy stories.

So your position is that you're asking me to ignore what I can clearly see with my own eyes because Musk went to Auschwitz once (looks like it was Jan 2024, not last week, and was in response to Musk allowing anti-semitic content on Twitter).

In addition you're asking me and others to be swayed by a deliberately misleading photo collage of politicians photographed with their arms in the air as if every politician is walking round sieg-heiling all over the shop, and nothing unusual whatsoever has happened.

I'm all for listening to other points of view but to me it's pretty clear by now there is no value in listening to you or communicating with you. The only thing I am curious to figure out is whether you are deliberately posting in bad faith or just have some difficulties around reality.