O/T:- Trump Presidency 2.0 [hic sunt dracones]

[1955pie]

I think you need to look up the definitions of 'forum troll' and 'bullying'.
You don't seem to understand either.



How would you know? You've only been on here 6 months! Unless of course you were banned and have come back under a new username, which would explain a lot.

I have wondered about this as well. Can?t quite remember who I am thinking of.

[Elite_Pie]

I have wondered about this as well. Can?t quite remember who I am thinking of.

I'll be kind and guess it's one of those "I've been a long time reader of the board but never posted before".

[Lullapie]

If I believed in god, that's something we could 100% agree on.

Who needs God, when you have yourself?

[Lullapie]

I know next to nothing about all this, but isn't Trump using tariffs to strongarm other countries into doing what he wants them to do? For example, manning the border and stopping illegal immigrants and fentanyl from crossing into the US. Once they submit, he agrees to postpone the sanctions while further negotiations take place.

From what I can see, that strategy has been effective so far - at least in some cases.

Of course he is. What the left-leaning contributors in the world fortunately forget to mention is history. We learn by history, but the lefties don't like that. So they ignore it or rewrite it.

We've seen the effects of that over the last few years. We lose our history, we lose our knowledge, we lose our heritage. Who is it that's been destroying all our monuments and telling us to feel ashamed for what happened hundreds of years ago? It's a pattern throughout the world.

[Elite_Pie]

Who needs God, when you have yourself?

I do happen to believe in myself.

Is there anyone here who doesn't believe in themself?

[Elite_Pie]

We've seen the effects of that over the last few years. We lose our history, we lose our knowledge, we lose our heritage.

Agree, and we also lose our respect. The Tories have a lot to answer for.

[Lullapie]

I'm not a Trump supporter, but it seems pretty obvious to me that that was his plan. He got what he wanted through the threat of tariffs. This isn't a novel approach. Leaders use leverage all the time. I agree that it won't work with Xi, who is a much smarter and more wily adversary, but it seems to have worked with Mexico.

What you say about Trump supporters is largely true. But the same goes for those on the other side as well. People on the left will ignore anything positive that comes out of the Trump presidency, or spin stuff to make it look worse. Both sides do this all the time, so let's not pretend otherwise.

I too, wasn't a Trump supporter initially. I only knew of him as property developer and wealthy businessman. I didn't even know that he had a TV programme.

For years I felt that there was a separation between the working person and the government though. I felt it in when I lived the UK and I feel it where I live now.

Trump came along and shook up the establishment. On top on that, being an entrepreneur he knew how to get things done. That really resonated with me and I can now see entirely why and how he does things. It kind of turned on a light.

The small minded bigots that berate him, in my opinion, either have a vested interest in bleeding their country dry, as we saw in the US before the last US election (and currently see with the USAID driven protests in LA and other US cities) or they are too lazy to do in-depth research into what he has achieved and how it was done, so just parrot speak and repeat what the former are telling them.

That is what winds me up more than anything - the laziness of debate. No proof, no facts, just regurgitated left-wing garbage (as the Americans would say).

[Lullapie]

I do happen to believe in myself.

Is there anyone here who doesn't believe in themself?

I bet there are many - but on this I fully agree. You have to be honest and believe in yourself and if your happy with that, who is to argue?

[Lullapie]

Agree, and we also lose our respect. The Tories have a lot to answer for.

You're comment was first class, until you brought the Tories into it. I would say what I always say - where is your proof? Surely right-wingers are more into retaining history than destroying it?

[Elite_Pie]

You're comment was first class, until you brought the Tories into it. I would say what I always say - where is your proof? Surely right-wingers are more into retaining history than destroying it?

My proof is that you said "We've seen the effects of that over the last few years".

Who has been in power for the vast majority of those last few years?

In case you're struggling, the answer begins with T and ends with ories.

[keldsyke]

My proof is that you said "We've seen the effects of that over the last few years".

Who has been in power for the vast majority of those last few years?

In case you're struggling, the answer begins with T and ends with ories.

Regionally, Nottingham the absurd Labour council that have ruined the city and criminally wasted so much money.

There is a bigger picture out there you don?t want to see or acknowledge

[Elite_Pie]

Regionally, Nottingham the absurd Labour council that have ruined the city and criminally wasted so much money.

There is a bigger picture out there you don?t want to see or acknowledge

He was obviously talking about 'the bigger picture', so I replied about 'the bigger picture'.

If you want to start a regional debate then do so by all means.

[BigFatPie]

Of course he is. What the left-leaning contributors in the world fortunately forget to mention is history. We learn by history, but the lefties don't like that. So they ignore it or rewrite it.

We've seen the effects of that over the last few years. We lose our history, we lose our knowledge, we lose our heritage. Who is it that's been destroying all our monuments and telling us to feel ashamed for what happened hundreds of years ago? It's a pattern throughout the world.

All history is in the constant process of being rewritten. Its like science, thats kind of how it works.

[magpie_mania]

Jampie tells lots of 'fibs;'. I've caught him out a few times and he's a bit of a 'Walter Mitty'. To suggest that it is Trump who has backed down goes against what most of the media - even the lefty media - is reporting. The Mexican President has agreed to station immediately 10,000 Mexican troops at the border. The Canadian Premier has agreed to spend US$1.3 billion on shoring up the US/Canada border and create an anti-Fentanyl team. Trump has given nothing back in return.

Only someone who is deluded could see that as a Trump backdown.

As I keep saying, there will be only one winner.

Last week Trump said that the tariffs on Canada and Mexico start tomorrow. He was asked if there was anything they could do to stop that happening. His answer was an unequivocal, ?No?.

But now he has dropped the tariffs. So yes, he has backed down.

[keldsyke]

He was obviously talking about 'the bigger picture', so I replied about 'the bigger picture'.

If you want to start a regional debate then do so by all means.

No need for a regional debate everyone knows that Labour have fecked up big time in Nottingham and ruined the city, pointless to debate.