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  • Originally posted by drillerpie View Post
    Regarding hardware, everyone having their own kit is not necessarily a bad thing.
    I'm sure if you focus entirely on defence it's a good thing.

    But if you look where those billions you spent on defence could have been better spent to solve some big domestic problems, maybe not so good.

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    • Originally posted by Bohinen View Post
      Would this European army have helped us defeat Argentina when they invaded the Falklands? I don't imagine the Spanish would have been keen to join in. And that also raises the issue of Gibraltar. The truth is, we're on our own, we have to fight our own battles. The US is an important ally because of their massive nuclear arsenal, and their support is far more important to us than that of the likes of Belgium, which is a country we invented, as it happens.
      It's starting to remind me of "The World is Not Enough". The US was an important ally to us and the free world. Between Trump, Musk and Putin they've probably realised that the can take over whatever they want, just keep up the social media propoganda to dupe the gullible American public. Poor Zelensky is the poor punchball. Everything he now says or does will be twisted to make him look bad. He's on the ground and Trump, Vance and Musk are happy to put the boot in. Putin meanwhile gets off scot free. I mean, it's not his fault that his tanks ended up carrying their exercise into Ukraine.

      Trump and his cronies know the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

      This isn't a question of Europe stepping up, it is all who consider themselves a part of the free world and they may well need to consider collective sanctions against the USA, at least until Trump has gone.

      Not felt this concerned since Cuba

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      • Originally posted by drillerpie View Post
        Well POTUS doesn't seem to mind Musk dressing like a hobo, and every other world leader seems to be able to understand why he does it without taking offence, so I will guess whatever Farage said was his usual fabricated outrage.

        Out of curiosity why do you object to the description of Zelensky? Hero might be over-doing it - obviously the heroes are the ones fighting the Russians - but he certainly did show real bravery by staying in Kyiv.
        Because I don't buy the propaganda that he is right and Putin is wrong. It's way too simplistic. No-one is a hero, they are fighting a pointless war that will achieve nothing.

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        • Originally posted by Bohinen View Post
          Because I don't buy the propaganda that he is right and Putin is wrong. It's way too simplistic. No-one is a hero, they are fighting a pointless war that will achieve nothing.
          Do you buy the 'propaganda' the Putin is wrong?

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          • Originally posted by Bohinen View Post
            Because I don't buy the propaganda that he is right and Putin is wrong. It's way too simplistic. No-one is a hero, they are fighting a pointless war that will achieve nothing.
            Pointless war???? What should Ukraine have done when Russia invaded in your opinion?

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            • Trump has just confirmed 25% tariffs on goods from Mexico and Canada, an extra 10% on those from China (meaning now 20% in total) and has also announced a 25% tariff on all aluminium and steel imports from 12th March. US stock markets have sunk accordingly.

              Doesn't this break the Trade Agreement with Canada and Mexico that Trump negotiated in his first term?
              Last edited by SwalePie; 03-03-2025, 09:45 PM.

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              • Originally posted by SwalePie View Post
                Doesn't this break the Trade Agreement with Canada and Mexico that Trump negotiated in his first term?
                It seems Trump's respect for rules, order and agreements is limited to when it suits his purpose.

                It's truly staggering that this ignorant and dangerous man baby is the leader of the most powerful country in the world. If you listen to his speeches, he just rambles incoherently, digressing and repeating himself. I find him to be a genuine threat to democracy and freedom, along with his billionaire cronies.

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                • "President Donald Trump said he is moving forward with"

                  Is not "confirms" to me at all. For Trump to confirm something the tariffs need to actually be applied. Whatever the guy says in a press conference? So much noise. Could be true, could be a lie, could be true in the moment and not true tomorrow etc

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                  • Originally posted by Old_pie View Post
                    It's starting to remind me of "The World is Not Enough". The US was an important ally to us and the free world. Between Trump, Musk and Putin they've probably realised that the can take over whatever they want, just keep up the social media propoganda to dupe the gullible American public. Poor Zelensky is the poor punchball. Everything he now says or does will be twisted to make him look bad. He's on the ground and Trump, Vance and Musk are happy to put the boot in. Putin meanwhile gets off scot free. I mean, it's not his fault that his tanks ended up carrying their exercise into Ukraine.

                    Trump and his cronies know the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

                    This isn't a question of Europe stepping up, it is all who consider themselves a part of the free world and they may well need to consider collective sanctions against the USA, at least until Trump has gone.

                    Not felt this concerned since Cuba
                    Share those thoughts and concerns I must admit. Scary times.

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                    • Now they've 'paused' all military aid to Ukraine, even that which is already in transit.

                      What on Earth has become of the USA? Disturbing at best.

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                      • Originally posted by SwalePie View Post
                        Now they've 'paused' all military aid to Ukraine, even that which is already in transit.

                        What on Earth has become of the USA? Disturbing at best.
                        This particular POTUS thinks he's running a reality TV game Deal or no Deal you're fired.
                        Like others have said worrying times.

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                        • Originally posted by SwalePie View Post
                          What on Earth has become of the USA? Disturbing at best.
                          me and mine are going to be severely impacted by Trump cr@pping of USMCA, if that's where his caprice ends. How will my kids ever buy their own house in this environment? It might be easy to theorize in Queensland, NZ, Jackal and Andy's world, but for everyone directly affected by the cheeto new world order it's pretty sh!tty sad times indeed.

                          anyway, I'm Nottscrolling instead of doomscrolling this year... 7 points from the next 3 games will see us right.

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                          • Originally posted by SwalePie View Post
                            Now they've 'paused' all military aid to Ukraine, even that which is already in transit.

                            What on Earth has become of the USA? Disturbing at best.
                            Puts all claims that Trump is even interested in Ukraine's wellbeing to the sword. What could he possibly do to help Putin that he isn't doing now?

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                            • Originally posted by Jampie View Post
                              Puts all claims that Trump is even interested in Ukraine's wellbeing to the sword. What could he possibly do to help Putin that he isn't doing now?
                              Maybe this

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                              • Originally posted by Bohinen View Post
                                Because I don't buy the propaganda that he is right and Putin is wrong. It's way too simplistic. No-one is a hero, they are fighting a pointless war that will achieve nothing.
                                OK well that's actually a very simplistic answer, and judging by your recent posts, like for example:

                                - Trump being no less left wing than Biden (despite mass layoffs, 800 billion of cuts to healthcare, huge tax cuts for the rich)

                                - Zelensky being a warmonger (for invading zero countries) and a grifter (referring to what I'm not sure)

                                - Ukraine defending itself from Russia being a pointless war

                                You're clearly buying something,

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