Williams is Favourite [New Head Coach speculation thread]

[MancMagpie]

Christ, didn't realise what I'd started here! My first post since the OP...

Just wanna say...

It's a massive NO for the York manager for me.

I watched them get complete obliterated by Oldham, who look like more of a L2 team.

York played like us in the national league days pre-Luke. It would be a massive step back.

Oldham pressed and bullied them...York had no answers. They went out the playoffs with a complete whimper. There's no way that guy is doing well in L2.

No to Hazelwood/Hishelwood or whatever he's called.
Please No!!!

[SwalePie]

Christ, didn't realise what I'd started here! My first post since the OP...

Just wanna say...

It's a massive NO for the York manager for me.

I watched them get complete obliterated by Oldham, who look like more of a L2 team.

York played like us in the national league days pre-Luke. It would be a massive step back.

Oldham pressed and bullied them...York had no answers. They went out the playoffs with a complete whimper. There's no way that guy is doing well in L2.

No to Hazelwood/Hishelwood or whatever he's called.
Please No!!!

I have the same feeling tbh

[Lullapie]

There's so many non-descript managers who fit the Brothers' MO - in fact most of them are in the betting odds.

I really hope it isn't Hinshelwood, Alves or Williams.

[the_anticlough]

Christ, didn't realise what I'd started here! My first post since the OP...

Just wanna say...

It's a massive NO for the York manager for me.

I watched them get complete obliterated by Oldham, who look like more of a L2 team.

York played like us in the national league days pre-Luke. It would be a massive step back.

Oldham pressed and bullied them...York had no answers. They went out the playoffs with a complete whimper. There's no way that guy is doing well in L2.

No to Hazelwood/Hishelwood or whatever he's called.
Please No!!!

I think the betting market is a load of bull. There will be artificial activity to attract attention - and persuade fools to donate their money to the billionaires. The only way for them to offset the eventual ITK bets is generate enough interest to attract not-ITK donations

Surely the club knows that Alves has to take up another role. SM was ultimately responsible but Alves was there and associated - the squad has to have new faces and voices on the training ground and in the dug-out

As for Hinshelwood, the appointment would be too similar to the last one. You could even argue that SM's NL record was better than his as making Wealdstone competitive is on a par with nearly getting, but failing to get, a much bigger club promotion.

I'm sure the club don't want another divided fanbase, potentially underwhelmed senior players, a flat stadium, and to relive the same dynamic as the last 18months.

But to land a better candidate make take time, fans should allow for this and not do everyone's heads in complaining about it.

[irishpete]

I think most managers would want their own pick of backroom staff if given the choice, although it depends how keen they are to come.

Hinshelwood hadn't been on my radar until I saw him shooting up the odds, but looking at the largely unremarkable squad he had at York, he must have been getting something approaching the maximum out of them to finish where they did, even though they fell short in the playoffs.

We could contrast Hinshelwood's relative over-achievement with Stuart Maynard, whose biggest failing was that he didn't appear to get the best out of a Notts squad containing considerable talent. The club statement said as much.

From what I've seen about rumours of him getting sacked after the Oldham result he was well backed financially in the local press.

[slack_pie]

Hinshelwood had a great season at York to be fair. But I agree - do we really need another manager who's side gets bullied in big matches? I get the feeling the bros will go for him or someone similar, someone without L2 experience or a promotion on their CV. Another semi-experiment. The thing is, if we pushed the boat out and got someone like Ian Evatt or Dean Brennan, we'd be nailed on for promotion. We have everything in place to succeed apart from a winner as a head coach.

[the_anticlough]

I'd speculate that a stumbling block might be the termination clauses the better coaches would want to negotiate. You can understand the Bros not wanting big pay outs in case of failure.

I'm guessing, but can termination clauses vary a lot?

[PedroTheFisherman66]

Hinshelwood had a great season at York to be fair. But I agree - do we really need another manager who's side gets bullied in big matches? I get the feeling the bros will go for him or someone similar, someone without L2 experience or a promotion on their CV. Another semi-experiment. The thing is, if we pushed the boat out and got someone like Ian Evatt or Dean Brennan, we'd be nailed on for promotion. We have everything in place to succeed apart from a winner as a head coach.

Off course all experienced managers never fail..
!!...and let's not forget how experienced LW was when he joined us.

[nw6pie]

Hinshelwood had a great season at York to be fair. But I agree - do we really need another manager who's side gets bullied in big matches? I get the feeling the bros will go for him or someone similar, someone without L2 experience or a promotion on their CV. Another semi-experiment. The thing is, if we pushed the boat out and got someone like Ian Evatt or Dean Brennan, we'd be nailed on for promotion. We have everything in place to succeed apart from a winner as a head coach.

I would have liked us to go for Brennan, but he’s just signed a new 3-year deal at Barnet so that’s probably a non-starter.

Hopefully the bros will release their end of season review very soon, and that will give us a better indication of whether they will be tweaking the playbook.

[slack_pie]

Off course all experienced managers never fail..
!!...and let's not forget how experienced LW was when he joined us.

Managers who have already achieved promotion and success at the level we currently play at are more likely to do so again than those who have achieved nothing. If our strategy is to maximise our chances of promotion, we'd be better off getting a manager who has already managed that elsewhere. It's not a guarantee of success, but it's less of a risk than what we normally do.

Re Hinshelwood, I suppose he would have achieved promotion last season in any other division. 96 points is pretty incredible and it's a huge injustice that they aren't in L2. That alone makes him a stronger candidate than most on the list.

[BigFatPie]

Christ, didn't realise what I'd started here! My first post since the OP...

Just wanna say...

It's a massive NO for the York manager for me.

I watched them get complete obliterated by Oldham, who look like more of a L2 team.

York played like us in the national league days pre-Luke. It would be a massive step back.

Oldham pressed and bullied them...York had no answers. They went out the playoffs with a complete whimper. There's no way that guy is doing well in L2.

No to Hazelwood/Hishelwood or whatever he's called.
Please No!!!

Bit harsh to judge the bloke on 1 game after a 96 point season!

I do like the NL playoff format, but York were at a distinct disadvantage this season going into that game having not played for 15 days, while Oldham had played the week before, got a decent win, and were match sharp. We all want someone with multiple EFL promotions but even so I think Hinshelwood would be a very good appointment.

[Jampie]

anyone else getting a little bit nervous that we haven't appointed anyone yet?

Sacking the head coach without a replacement lined up? Not really the brothers' style, I would've thought.

At least they did it at the end of the season so it's not necessarily a deathblow to the next one.

[carnthepies]

anyone else getting a little bit nervous that we haven't appointed anyone yet?

Sacking the head coach without a replacement lined up? Not really the brothers' style, I would've thought.

At least they did it at the end of the season so it's not necessarily a deathblow to the next one.

There were 13 days between Williams's departure and Maynard's appointment, there were 18 days between Burchnall and Williams. It's been 8 days so far, I wouldn't worry.

[Jampie]

There were 13 days between Williams's departure and Maynard's appointment, there were 18 days between Burchnall and Williams. It's been 8 days so far, I wouldn't worry.

Reassuring, but those weren't self inflicted emergencies like this one is...

[Med Pie]

Off course all experienced managers never fail..
!!...and let's not forget how experienced LW was when he joined us.

Agree, always better to be on course