Williams is Favourite [New Head Coach speculation thread]

[PedroTheFisherman66]

Stronger defence weaker attack by a mile too worth being balanced.

What we need is someone with a proven EFL record who isnt on the merry go round.

Step forward Ian Evatt a guy who has led two clubs to promotion.

The way our model works the head coach takes ALL the blame for somebody elses signings.

Maynard had us in a good place to be fair then we sold one of our best players and replaced him with someone we released 4 months later....now ask yourself who made that decision.

Do you mean the club sold some one for 400k who was going to leave us for free in four months time..!?

[Boomerangpie]

Do you mean the club sold some one for 400k who was going to leave us for free in four months time..!?

Yes that?s the one.

Legs77 must have had an absolute field day on here regarding recruitment prior to the nerds and all that analysis arriving at the club

[legs77]

Do you mean the club sold some one for 400k who was going to leave us for free in four months time..!?

I have no problem with the sale and please show me where I do ?

I said the "replacement" was a kid we released 4 months later.

Now read it again and tell me which part is incorrect.

[legs77]

Yes that?s the one.

Legs77 must have had an absolute field day on here regarding recruitment prior to the nerds and all that analysis arriving at the club

I have no field day at all we want what is best for the club.

My point was its ok people crawling up LW a*se about goals scored that is true but when you sell them you are likely to be worse in most cases.

Look at Walsall when Lowe was recalled good goalscorers are hard to replace everyone knows that.

[hissingdwarf]

Can this thread be continued on the new board, seeming as it takes so long to load?

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[Boomerangpie]

I have no field day at all we want what is best for the club.

My point was its ok people crawling up LW a*se about goals scored that is true but when you sell them you are likely to be worse in most cases.

Look at Walsall when Lowe was recalled good goalscorers are hard to replace everyone knows that.

Agreed. Sell your better players for big profits you are likely to be initially worse off on the pitch.

When our recruitment was far worse but the decisions were primarily made by the then manager, did you get more of less frustrated, annoyed and upset than under the current regime and approach?

[OP67]

Good post. He turned that team into something special. Who else could transform Chicksen from a defensive-minded full-back into a high-scoring wing-back?

I'd love to see what he could do with Will Jarvis or even Mai Traore. I'd love to see Jodi playing with the breaks off again.

Wasn't it Burchnall that said he'd take an assistants job?? I can't see Williams taking as assistants job after being a manager in the Championship.

[legs77]

Agreed. Sell your better players for big profits you are likely to be initially worse off on the pitch.

When our recruitment was far worse but the decisions were primarily made by the then manager, did you get more of less frustrated, annoyed and upset than under the current regime and approach?

That depends who the manager is as no system is flawless.

I think using data is the right way forward i've never said otherwise.

My concerns are 1.Why are we gambling on injured players when every penny counts at L2 level.

2.The Head Coach gets the flak for bad results fine thats the game BUT why are the recruiters bullet proof in that regard afterall they identified the players & signed them.

Now part 2 imo will have an impact on which person we get to coach/manage the team.

You always need good players whatever level you operate at but most importantly the manager is the key to success....now do we give ourselves the best options to get best ?

[Chicken Balti Pie]

Wasn't it Burchnall that said he'd take an assistants job?? I can't see Williams taking as assistants job after being a manager in the Championship.

Williams did but I think he meant more in the way of assistant or coach in the premier league/ championship rather than back in league 2, a bit like what Nolan did

[PedroTheFisherman66]

I have no problem with the sale and please show me where I do ?

I said the "replacement" was a kid we released 4 months later.

Now read it again and tell me which part is incorrect.

Your problem it seems to me anyway, is that we sold him. If we hadn't sold him we wouldnt have needed a replacement. The replacement was a judgement call that didnt pay off.However we protected ourself financially with a short term contract! The real, more considered replacement will now be introduced during the pre season window. I'm afraid that's part of football.

[Boomerangpie]

That depends who the manager is as no system is flawless.

I think using data is the right way forward i've never said otherwise.

My concerns are 1.Why are we gambling on injured players when every penny counts at L2 level.

2.The Head Coach gets the flak for bad results fine thats the game BUT why are the recruiters bullet proof in that regard afterall they identified the players & signed them.

Now part 2 imo will have an impact on which person we get to coach/manage the team.

You always need good players whatever level you operate at but most importantly the manager is the key to success....now do we give ourselves the best options to get best ?

Which manager? There are far too many to list (therein lies a big problem of our past) probably wiser to ask were you more frustrated, annoyed and upset when owned by anybody after Paris and before the Reedtz? I believe during that extended period all the appointed managers had a say in the recruitment, which on the whole was dire as I am sure you will recall.

You can easily argue either way, some fans will belief the players (recruitment) is more important than the manager, others will agree and say the manager is more important.

[legs77]

Your problem it seems to me anyway, is that we sold him. If we hadn't sold him we wouldnt have needed a replacement. The replacement was a judgement call that didnt pay off.However we protected ourself financially with a short term contract! The real, more considered replacement will now be introduced during the pre season window. I'm afraid that's part of football.

Selling a player who wanted to leave and had six months to go is and always will be smart business at our level.

We knew in the summer he wanted to go and imo 4 months is enough time to track a replacement who is ready for league football.

If you lose a key player which he was you need to replace him properly as results are likely to slip.

We hope we have a replacement but we might not play the same system this season who knows.

[PedroTheFisherman66]

Selling a player who wanted to leave and had six months to go is and always will be smart business at our level.

We knew in the summer he wanted to go and imo 4 months is enough time to track a replacement who is ready for league football.

If you lose a key player which he was you need to replace him properly as results are likely to slip.

We hope we have a replacement but we might not play the same system this season who knows.

I'm glad you saw the logic off selling when they did.There were many that didn't.Off course there is potentially always a down side if you are selling your best players as we found out on this occasion

[durhampie]

Wasn't it Burchnall that said he'd take an assistants job?? I can't see Williams taking as assistants job after being a manager in the Championship.

Neither are any good..

[tied_up_in_notts]

Do you mean the club sold some one for 400k who was going to leave us for free in four months time..!?

Yep the one who would most likely have left us in four month's time in League One, which would have been well worth the lost 400K in my humble opinion