Martin Patterson

[legs77]

The statement that was on the site pretty much said they all get together to discuss & we will have "in game data" ready.

They arent my words they are the words of the DOF.

[Mark_Ross]

Feeling very deflated at the moment after our underwhelming signings and now this. Looks like the owners have thrown the towel in.

[LeftPeg_Pie]

This is all sounds great until MP doesnt do the move they think he should.

You have always had coaches to spot that stuff or heaven forbid how about we let players think for themselves rather than be robotic & told where to stand/pass.

I dont care what anyone says its completely killing the game.

McGoldrick was correct the game trys to suppress mavericks and this makes me wonder why he didnt stay ....we'll hide behind wages but with his influence we probably wanted him out.

I think your first point is a sound worry for a system we do not know a lot about. That is where the Technical Board will live or die; can the post game analysis be honest, with egos left at the door. No Head Coach will get everything correct. The data will not always be correct.

I do not disagree that coaches can spot those things, the in-game data is simply another set of eyes on the game. The data produced is feedback as valid as the eye test.

On your wider point, I tend to agree that football does feel more managed, a bit more robotic. I think a decent percentage of that is down to the money/stakes at play and club therefore wanting to as much as possible control the controllables.

But it also can work tremendously. Notts under Williams were so heavily coached and played his patterns religiously. In that NL season, tactically, Notts were something else.

On the other hand, look at Jack Grealish. An outstanding talent, coached by one of the best coaches football has seen to date and he looks a shadow of what he is.

[the_anticlough]

I thought the Paterson & Edwards interviews were really good (And we're back to assistants being interviewed after the weird Saunders silence)

Pity we couldn't have made appoitments like that in Jan '24. It suggests it was rushed backed then after LW left us in the lurch. The Bros preferred to take their time and cast their net wide and interview a lot of people (some will refuse due to the structure).

The 2 are a half hour watch on Pies Player, highly recommended for any fan.

[marshall55]

Available on YouTube channel too, like the sound of Edwards.

[The Dug Out]

I kind of like being part of this "experiment" that the Bros are implementing and watching the talent that Andy Edwards brings from his vast experience is very re-assuring.
I don't see the match day scenario of the 5 selectors having a rumble as to who they each think should play & where, i think it will be a more structured process, done in a professional manner.
I just have a feeling that we will be bringing in some very good players who are clever enough to be part of our system and get off the money go round system that we have all been watching for the past ump**** years, it takes brave, not stupid, people to go down this route to find success that has relied on how big a budget you have got in some period of a financial year, well done the bros, out of the box thinking.

[LaxtonLad]

Available on YouTube channel too, like the sound of Edwards.

Do you mean you like the sound of Edwards' speech? Or just that it's available on YouTube?

[Boomerangpie]

I can see what you mean but no-one is allowed to criticise the owners. It seems we are being used as an experiment in new methods by them, which I thought was fair enough to start with but has gone a step too far now. The fact they had to scrape the barrel for a HC shows this is not acceptable to most potential candidates, some of whom would have done a good job.

By the way, given people have a new site now, please don't feel the need to come down here (not you, obviously) with your 5 user names and tell us what to think. I don't own this site but I am loyal to it. All opinions are welcome here, but suppressing people's opinions is not. Show some respect to other users.

It is clear to me that your desire is for this site to be an echo chamber for an increasingly dwindling number to complain, where toxic negativity is simply not allowed to be challenged. It is you Sir who have been suppressing opinions, mine being one of them.

Are you the moderator of this site? If not, then respectfully please do not tell people who can or can?t use it.

[Boomerangpie]

I kind of like being part of this "experiment" that the Bros are implementing and watching the talent that Andy Edwards brings from his vast experience is very re-assuring.
I don't see the match day scenario of the 5 selectors having a rumble as to who they each think should play & where, i think it will be a more structured process, done in a professional manner.
I just have a feeling that we will be bringing in some very good players who are clever enough to be part of our system and get off the money go round system that we have all been watching for the past ump**** years, it takes brave, not stupid, people to go down this route to find success that has relied on how big a budget you have got in some period of a financial year, well done the bros, out of the box thinking.

Back on topic I have very similar thoughts regarding the match day scenario and am too excited to be part of the experiment, something different.

However it will all depend upon who they get in, recruitment is key and they need quality arriving over the next month or so that?s for certain. Hopefully our new head coach can have a word with his old mate Eddie Howe they?ve got plenty of young talent up in the north east currently

[Bohinen]

Part of Andy Edwards 'vast experience', in fact, his only job as a club manager was at Leyton Orient, the season they went down out of the Football League, 20016/2017.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_E...er,_born_1971)

Edwards was appointed permanent manager on 23 November 2016 following the departure of Alberto Cavasin.[12]

Edwards left Orient for a role with the Football Association on 29 January 2017 as an out-of-possession coach working with England's development teams.
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He managed 11 games, losing 8, and had a win percentage of 18%. He worked for our head of recruitment at the time. To quote Sir Alex Ferguson, 'When an Italian tells me it's pasta on the plate I check under the sauce to make sure'.

[marshall55]

Edwards talks very well and yes for me youtube is preferred over pies player

[The Dug Out]

Folk can nit-pick all they like but we have what we have, 1st & formost are our owners, they are class, no bold statements thrown out publicly, just walk the talk out of sight, we longed for this years ago & we now have it. Regards Edwards, as assistant he has dealt with top level footballers, some, no doubt prima donna's, that's where his worth comes into play. Forget about Orient etc, he is now at Meadow Lane.

[BigFatPie]

Part of Andy Edwards 'vast experience', in fact, his only job as a club manager was at Leyton Orient, the season they went down out of the Football League, 20016/2017.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_E...er,_born_1971)

Edwards was appointed permanent manager on 23 November 2016 following the departure of Alberto Cavasin.[12]

Edwards left Orient for a role with the Football Association on 29 January 2017 as an out-of-possession coach working with England's development teams.
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He managed 11 games, losing 8, and had a win percentage of 18%. He worked for our head of recruitment at the time. To quote Sir Alex Ferguson, 'When an Italian tells me it's pasta on the plate I check under the sauce to make sure'.

Yeah I said something similar in the other place. People think theres some science to all this, but no, Gagliardi has just got the bloke he knew from Leyton Orient when they were crap. The bloke whos been pushing traffic cones round St Georges Park for the last 7 years.

[Boomerangpie]

I don?t think anybody (players coaches managers) came out of that period of Leyton Orient?s history in a good light. Something to do with a crazy owner doing wild and reckless things at the top. Reminds me of one our past owners

Why would our brothers do anything scientific or data led there is nothing to suggest that would happen . Better in believing they used a tombola in their recruitments of players staff. Looks like they are lucky owners then

BFP have you actually done any digging on what Edwards has done exactly in coaching or is just more conjecture with the usual negative slant.

You need to mix it up more than Notts do on a Saturday

[crazyfists]

This bloke has vast playing and coaching experience.
Interesting hire, we should wish him and Paterson every success. Get behind them and give them a chance.

It's not as if there's any going back now. It's done, this is our new coaching team.

After watching that interview with Andrew, I feel much better. Looking forward to seeing the new look Notts.