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    So, the Prince formerly known as Andrew is heading to a 2up-2down on an estate not far from me.

    Should I go protest?

    I'm no fan of the Windsors, but have to say I admire the decisive nature of the statement depriving Andy of all his titles.

    But did Charlie take the initiative, or was he 'persuaded'?

    Does the focus now swing back to Donny?

    Over to you CAM!

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    Given Mountbatten as a middle name? I don't think that's been thought through either. And no, I'm not going to elaborate on that one.

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    • #3
      Losing titles and moving out of his mansion must be devastating for the poor soul.
      I don?t give a **** what he?s known as now.
      He should be known by his prison number as far as I?m concerned.

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      • #4
        I bet the arrogant bstrd is sweating now

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        • #5
          The whole monarchy needs abolishing they have no relevance in today’s climate and are rotten to the core, whether it be extra marital affairs dodgy deals or *****philia and much much more, they cost an absolute fortune with their massive houses and hangers on fed up of hearing about them and time to get shut

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          • #6
            Charles is head of the Military, keeping it out of the hands of despots and lunatics like a certain President. They'll never be set on their own public while they are in neutral hands.

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            • #7
              Chop him up and feed him to the pigs ,and I don't mean Wednesday fans.

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              • #8
                It?s all a nonsense. If he has committed a crime then let?s see him in court to be met with the full force of justice for a ***ual predator. All this title stripping is a nonsense and just a distraction from getting him in the courts.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Spuddy Speight View Post
                  Given Mountbatten as a middle name? I don't think that's been thought through either. And no, I'm not going to elaborate on that one.
                  He was given it when he was born. All children of the Queen and Duke of Edinburgh were given the surname (not a middle name) Mountbatten-Windsor as the Duke was unhappy that his children otherwise wouldn't carry his name.

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                  • #10
                    I think Spuddy is referring to the allegations about his ***ual preferences. Tom Driberg famously nicknamed him ?Mountbottom? and he was alleged to prefer them at the younger end of the spectrum?


                    This is all hearsay and there is very little evidence to support what has been said. However, Mountbatten and his wife, Edwina, were known to have had an open marriage where they both had other partners.

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                    • #11
                      Consider this

                      Andrew always was Randy Andy and had a deep attraction to freeloading with wealthy perople. In this lifestyle he’s going to end up at dubious parties and liaisons with women most would call prostitutes. All entirely consensual.

                      So he could be having a whale of a time without entirely knowing the deep dark stuff that others are doing around him so he becomes guilty by association

                      Then the media latch onto him and we get the media circus takes over, leaving a guy that is innocent in law but guilty in the frenzy of public opinion.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Grist_To_The_Mill View Post
                        Consider this

                        Andrew always was Randy Andy and had a deep attraction to freeloading with wealthy perople. In this lifestyle he’s going to end up at dubious parties and liaisons with women most would call prostitutes. All entirely consensual.

                        So he could be having a whale of a time without entirely knowing the deep dark stuff that others are doing around him so he becomes guilty by association

                        Then the media latch onto him and we get the media circus takes over, leaving a guy that is innocent in law but guilty in the frenzy of public opinion.
                        That's an interesting take Grist and not beyond the realms of possibility .

                        I would however question your attempt to paint Mountbatten as the victim even if he fell short of breaking the law .

                        I'm sure you'd agree with me that royalty comes with the very best standards in behaviour and morals , the Randy Andy tag is something you'd probably get away with as a 20 year old Prince and you'd probably even then only get away with it in different times gone by , the kind of times when the Sunday Sport was popular and Benny Hill was on our tv screens .

                        Mountbatten wasn't a 20 year old Prince when he associated himself with Epstein and the days of Benny Hill are long gone , the public expect higher standards of behaviour and that doesn't only apply to Mountbatten .

                        The days of pinching the young girls backside in the office at work and nobody raising an eyebrow are also long gone .

                        I would expect to receive instant dismissal and it's also right that Mountbatten is sacked from his own family business .

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by CTMilller View Post
                          I think Spuddy is referring to the allegations about his ***ual preferences. Tom Driberg famously nicknamed him ?Mountbottom? and he was alleged to prefer them at the younger end of the spectrum?


                          This is all hearsay and there is very little evidence to support what has been said. However, Mountbatten and his wife, Edwina, were known to have had an open marriage where they both had other partners.
                          I was responding to Spuddy seeming to believe he was just given the name, according to the post I quoted. I also don?t know why Animal hs just started calling him ?Mountbatten? as that is a family name, not just his. Maybe he should be known as ?TAFKAP?, The Aristocrat Formerly Known As Prince?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by animallittle3 View Post
                            That's an interesting take Grist and not beyond the realms of possibility .

                            I would however question your attempt to paint Mountbatten as the victim even if he fell short of breaking the law .

                            I'm sure you'd agree with me that royalty comes with the very best standards in behaviour and morals , the Randy Andy tag is something you'd probably get away with as a 20 year old Prince and you'd probably even then only get away with it in different times gone by , the kind of times when the Sunday Sport was popular and Benny Hill was on our tv screens .

                            Mountbatten wasn't a 20 year old Prince when he associated himself with Epstein and the days of Benny Hill are long gone , the public expect higher standards of behaviour and that doesn't only apply to Mountbatten .

                            The days of pinching the young girls backside in the office at work and nobody raising an eyebrow are also long gone .

                            I would expect to receive instant dismissal and it's also right that Mountbatten is sacked from his own family business .
                            It?s all guesswork really but essentially you?ve got a guy from a sheltered and privileged background not a chiselled lad from Rawmarsh that?s had a few rounds with slack Alice that can see the traps and pitfalls

                            The media circus has been quite interesting though, the way they latch on like a pit bull and shake the corpse. Some of it is quite subtle in the way they setup Andrew as a hate figure. Take the BBC for example, when they show pictures of him he?s always frowning or scowling, did the guy never smile? It really becomes the pantomime scenario of booing the villain

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Grist_To_The_Mill View Post
                              It?s all guesswork really but essentially you?ve got a guy from a sheltered and privileged background not a chiselled lad from Rawmarsh that?s had a few rounds with slack Alice that can see the traps and pitfalls

                              The media circus has been quite interesting though, the way they latch on like a pit bull and shake the corpse. Some of it is quite subtle in the way they setup Andrew as a hate figure. Take the BBC for example, when they show pictures of him he?s always frowning or scowling, did the guy never smile? It really becomes the pantomime scenario of booing the villain
                              Have you been living in a cave for the last 5 years ?

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