Should be 6 gone incl' Douglas & Scott. Need a manager whose his own man gets players in he wants.
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Ah the personal abuse, no surprise from you CAM a bloke that told me previously that he didn?t agree with people that did that. I have my opinions you have yours and to be honest I find your opinions to be massively naive and very pointless, talking about nearly being in the top 8 five games ago is completely irrelevant, if we had won five games at the start of the season that we didn?t win we would be in the top half, but we didn?t and we are in the bottom four and looking awful. So you may disagree and think I am wrong, but like everyone else on here I am entitled to my opinion and as anadmin or whatever you are you should respect that and keep personal abuse to yourself.Originally posted by CAMiller View PostYou talk some bollax but that last sentence takes the biscuit. Yes, it's been 19 days as bad as I can remember at RUFC and it's hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel but prior to December 10th we were looking like mid-table certainties.
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Hamshaw has only himself to blame.
1 His signings were lousy.
2 Nice enough bloke but would you run through a brick wall for him? No charisma.
3 Tactically he was useless. Big hoof down the middle onto the nut of a central defender facing no threat from a centre forward.
I am already using the past tense you'll notice
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Since when has someone telling you that you are talking nonsense been classed as personal abuse? Take a look at what you put and compare APs time at Forest with MHs time here.Originally posted by Derbymiller View PostAh the personal abuse, no surprise from you CAM a bloke that told me previously that he didn?t agree with people that did that. I have my opinions you have yours and to be honest I find your opinions to be massively naive and very pointless, talking about nearly being in the top 8 five games ago is completely irrelevant, if we had won five games at the start of the season that we didn?t win we would be in the top half, but we didn?t and we are in the bottom four and looking awful. So you may disagree and think I am wrong, but like everyone else on here I am entitled to my opinion and as anadmin or whatever you are you should respect that and keep personal abuse to yourself.
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All the talk of removing the manager is absolutely stupid.Who would want to come and work for a club who will not invest and shows zero ambition.If nothing changes at the top, then we will continue to decline.Originally posted by Timbertop View PostThe situation at Rotherham United is now well known throughout the game. Only the cheap unprincipled out of work grabsters will be interested in the managers job when Hamshaw is sacked tomorrow. Nothing will improve until Stewart sells the club. What a sorry state we are now in.
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Of course it is, to say what other people say is b****x you didn?t say nonsense did you? So in the sense that AP lost the fans, in the sense that he was stubborn and wouldn?t change the way he played is very much like what we are seeing at the moment. That is what I meant, there are similarities in that respect. I rarely agree with what you say, if you do not want to read what I put and you have such a low opinion of my views then block me so you don?t have to read them. I know I am not always right, I know I react and talk from emotion, I put that on the post. Where as you come across as arrogant and believing yourself to be superior to others and a voice of reason, that is annoying too. Now you might not be like that in person, but that is how I read your posts, you see we can all have views and opinions, ours clearly do not align on things related to the club, enjoy your evening.Originally posted by CAMiller View PostSince when has someone telling you that you are talking nonsense been classed as personal abuse? Take a look at what you put and compare APs time at Forest with MHs time here.
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I'm not a big enough follower of Forest to have grasped the undertow of your comment. All I saw was you comparing our manager with one who had inherited a team that qualified for Europe and overnight turned them into a basket case. MH neither inherited a good team nor turned them bad overnight but as I said the past 19 days have been especially horrible.Originally posted by Derbymiller View PostOf course it is, to say what other people say is b****x you didn?t say nonsense did you? So in the sense that AP lost the fans, in the sense that he was stubborn and wouldn?t change the way he played is very much like what we are seeing at the moment. That is what I meant, there are similarities in that respect. I rarely agree with what you say, if you do not want to read what I put and you have such a low opinion of my views then block me so you don?t have to read them. I know I am not always right, I know I react and talk from emotion, I put that on the post. Where as you come across as arrogant and believing yourself to be superior to others and a voice of reason, that is annoying too. Now you might not be like that in person, but that is how I read your posts, you see we can all have views and opinions, ours clearly do not align on things related to the club, enjoy your evening.
Apart from that point I do respect your opinions, agree with some, disagree with others. I pulled you up once for inferring that one of our executives only held onto his job because of his ability to 'bend over'. I removed it and suggested it was probably libelous. Is that what annoyed you?
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Correct. The amount of managers who have turned us down including that guy from Cambridge who I had never heard of. Its starting to make sense why Kenny Jackett left after 5 games (not saying he was a good manager btw).Originally posted by MillerBill View PostAll the talk of removing the manager is absolutely stupid.Who would want to come and work for a club who will not invest and shows zero ambition.If nothing changes at the top, then we will continue to decline.
As Ive said before, I cannot trust TS to bring in anyone better. His only hope is taking a cheap punt and hoping he gets lucky. He did it with Warne and it worked. Its not looking like its working with MH.
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Originally posted by Shark27 View PostCorrect. The amount of managers who have turned us down including that guy from Cambridge who I had never heard of. Its starting to make sense why Kenny Jackett left after 5 games (not saying he was a good manager btw).
As Ive said before, I cannot trust TS to bring in anyone better. His only hope is taking a cheap punt and hoping he gets lucky. He did it with Warne and it worked. Its not looking like its working with MH.
IF - we had Rafferty, Spence, Benson and Nombe back in the side we wouldn't be in this predicament. However, those key injuries/absences have hurt us on the pitch. My concern is the loss of belief from too many defeats. Couple that with a side with about as much cutting edge as a damp, crushed tissue. Hugill is an honest trier, but about as effective a striker as a sodden Swan Vestas. As things stand, we look like bottom half National League fodder. Another issue is that who would want to come to a club in apparent freefall in a L1 relegation place with a stitched together team whose confidence is shot through?
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I dont think many would apart from those with nothing to lose.Originally posted by sawmiller View PostIF - we had Rafferty, Spence, Benson and Nombe back in the side we wouldn't be in this predicament. However, those key injuries/absences have hurt us on the pitch. My concern is the loss of belief from too many defeats. Couple that with a side with about as much cutting edge as a damp, crushed tissue. Hugill is an honest trier, but about as effective a striker as a sodden Swan Vestas. As things stand, we look like bottom half National League fodder. Another issue is that who would want to come to a club in apparent freefall in a L1 relegation place with a stitched together team whose confidence is shot through?
I do not think we can talk too much about injuries. When we signed Benson, Barnsley fans said he was a decent player but was hardly ever fit.
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We didn?t appear in the bottom 4 all season that year until Halifax won at Walsall several days after we lost at home to York in our final game.Originally posted by sawmiller View PostThe Spectre of 1973 - shame it's our Centenary year
The circumstances that season were bizarre whereby we lost our last 3 games and Halifax won their last four. That season we never looked like going down and it was only due to a series of bizarre events that we went down.
We were bottom of a number of teams who finished on 41 points and therefore went down in 21st place. 41 points was at the time a record high for the number of points a team went down from level 3 with?.bearing in mind at that time it was only 2 points for a win and if teams finished level on points, the higher place was awarded based on goal average, as opposed to goal difference, not that that last part made any difference.
This season we are in the bottom 4 and I think many would be hard pressed to find a more disjointed team anywhere in the league below and many in the Conference.
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Peoples views are skewed because they like the manager. I understand that why wouldnt they be. Truth is he was a cheap option and its not working. We have been unlucky with injuries but his decision making is atrocious. Hes signed lightweight players and in this league its suicidal. Hes doesnt portray any confidence and hes not delivered on what he said. Playing on the front foot.
His persistence with Martha.
His persistence with the defensive set up.
His persistence with hoofball.
His persistence with Powell on set pieces
Hes either stupid or arrogant.
I dont care if hes a nice guy or from Rotherham. I dont care if his family are nice either.
Hes not a manager hes a coach playing at it well let him go and play somewhere else. Hes failed so far and his football is tedious and boring.
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