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    Tiser quoting more from Smith.
    No wonder TS likes him, another one who thinks we can punch above our weight in a sustained way without a budget increase.
    Good luck with that one.
    He also thinks going down wouldn?t affect anything, apart from it not being nice for the fans.
    Good luck with that too.

    Can we have a board that understands football anytime soon?

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    In the likelihood, or not, of a fans' forum taking place with Mr Smith and PD/TS, I would like to ask the following question.
    ''If we, RUFC, were to find ourselves in League Two next season would the cost of a season ticket stay the same, be reduced or increased?"
    Asking for several friends.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Old_time_miller View Post
      Tiser quoting more from Smith.
      No wonder TS likes him, another one who thinks we can punch above our weight in a sustained way without a budget increase.
      Good luck with that one.
      He also thinks going down wouldn?t affect anything, apart from it not being nice for the fans.
      Good luck with that too.

      Can we have a board that understands football anytime soon?
      . Maybe if the new director was thinking of putting in a bid for the club then going down might make the club cheaper to buy .

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Stovicmiller View Post
        . Maybe if the new director was thinking of putting in a bid for the club then going down might make the club cheaper to buy .
        I've been there already

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        • #5
          What a cynical world we live in.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Townerslovechild View Post
            What a cynical world we live in.
            TLC, nowt wrong with a bit of forward thinking but business is business like Stovic says. I'm sure Tony 'doesn't' want to see us relegated in our Centenary year but, it could happen then what? Will he have the desire/stamina to plough more money back into an ailing side hoping he can climb out of the bottom division again?

            Are we are not too far away to seeing a new owner take over or, is that just desire from the fans, me included, because we feel as a club we've stagnated?

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            • #7
              Why would an executive director be over concerned about a playing staff budget?

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              • #8
                Probably doesn't have a problem with life in the National League either

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                • #9
                  If you haven't heard this latest interview with Phil Smith, link is below.

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                  • #10
                    My thoughts were that some of the quotes seemed at odds to his initial interview the other week.
                    Seemingly not bothered at all about going down, thinking that would only impact on fans.
                    Less fans, lower income (price reduction or not) lower commercial revenue, less income from all sales on match days. Only saving would be on players wages, which would naturally follow on players staying or new ones in.
                    Relegation would only make things worse...and this guy does not get it. He thinks in terms of say a 3 or 4 yr plan to get from 2 to ch.

                    Possibly, using his method of sustained growth on and off the field. Fine in theory. But it is only that, as he openly admits he thinks it can be achieved without a budget increase. He lives in a commercial world, successful at that. What he envisages you cannot apply to a football club, football will pull and push via players, injuries, costs, inflation, income receipts in a way he will not be used to planning for.
                    The current administration cannot at times handle it, and we get in trouble. He will fall into the same trap the way he talks.
                    Very few boards or chairman are good at it. The current one has never really delegated to those that know football enough times.

                    Pushing the boat out now and again, at the right time, in a controlled way with good signing, not splashing a 1m on Nombe, while letting other better players walk a way free he will have to stop. We have come to a crashing halt on that, a good thing, but by paying for previous errors.

                    The way he talks has no substance, he has a lot to learn. Thinking relegation can be easily overcome and it only troubles the fans is a massive red flag as far as I am concerned.

                    An owner good at selling lighting.
                    Perhaps one who is good at finance.
                    We need one who can build a board, staff across the club, good at running a football clube from a football direction, delegate to them and let them go with it. A sound concern.
                    Last edited by Old_time_miller; 14-02-2026, 09:38 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Terrace talk saying interview I haven't heard with Rob Staiton were Phil Smith says Hamshaw is doing a good job, got the Roth U dna. Well he isn't & wasn't he at Sheff W as a player, not here?
                      Last edited by RU66; 14-02-2026, 10:18 PM. Reason: Edit

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by RU66 View Post
                        Terrace talk saying interview I haven't heard with Rob Staiton were Phil Smith says Hamshaw is doing a good job, got the Roth U dna. Well he isn't & wasn't he at Sheff W as a player, not here?
                        It's a shame someone can't post a link to the interview isn't it.

                        FFS.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Old_time_miller View Post
                          My thoughts were that some of the quotes seemed at odds to his initial interview the other week.
                          Seemingly not bothered at all about going down, thinking that would only impact on fans.
                          Less fans, lower income (price reduction or not) lower commercial revenue, less income from all sales on match days. Only saving would be on players wages, which would naturally follow on players staying or new ones in.
                          Relegation would only make things worse...and this guy does not get it. He thinks in terms of say a 3 or 4 yr plan to get from 2 to ch.

                          Possibly, using his method of sustained growth on and off the field. Fine in theory. But it is only that, as he openly admits he thinks it can be achieved without a budget increase. He lives in a commercial world, successful at that. What he envisages you cannot apply to a football club, football will pull and push via players, injuries, costs, inflation, income receipts in a way he will not be used to planning for.
                          The current administration cannot at times handle it, and we get in trouble. He will fall into the same trap the way he talks.
                          Very few boards or chairman are good at it. The current one has never really delegated to those that know football enough times.

                          Pushing the boat out now and again, at the right time, in a controlled way with good signing, not splashing a 1m on Nombe, while letting other better players walk a way free he will have to stop. We have come to a crashing halt on that, a good thing, but by paying for previous errors.

                          The way he talks has no substance, he has a lot to learn. Thinking relegation can be easily overcome and it only troubles the fans is a massive red flag as far as I am concerned.

                          An owner good at selling lighting.
                          Perhaps one who is good at finance.
                          We need one who can build a board, staff across the club, good at running a football clube from a football direction, delegate to them and let them go with it. A sound concern.
                          Whether OldTimeMiller thinks it or not, Phil Smith gets it, I promise you he does.

                          There's absolutely no value in you setting out the economic impact of being relegated because it has been factored in months ago and as an eventuality, planned for by people who know a lot more about it than you or I. That's for you to get your head around because whatever league we're in next season, the club has a strategy (or will have) and this guy is essentially leading it.

                          Imagine that, a successful local businessman who also happens to be a Rotherham United supporter. A man with money, contacts and therefore the potential to bring in future investment for the good of the club. Wow! Fans of other clubs would love that. Yet some of our "fans" are already making him out to be some kind of elephant in the room because he hasn't opened up blank cheque book. It genuinely boggles my mind that people are already whining about it.

                          He's been here for two weeks FFS, give the man a chance to have some kind of impact. You never know he might actually do some of the things you're going on about.
                          Last edited by Heliosphan78; 15-02-2026, 12:31 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Sorry to intervene but this terrace talk or the guy who runs it is very anti MH, if you look on Facebook I would argue it is bordering on libel the abuse is absolutely horrible if you scroll down how this guy can pretend to be a supporter God only knows
                            I agree with Heliosphan let’s give Phil Smith a chance at least (who by the way Terrace Talk is very insulting about) I know things aren’t great at the minute but any additional support/ideas must be welcomed

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by uttis View Post
                              Sorry to intervene but this terrace talk or the guy who runs it is very anti MH, if you look on Facebook I would argue it is bordering on libel the abuse is absolutely horrible if you scroll down how this guy can pretend to be a supporter God only knows
                              I agree with Heliosphan let’s give Phil Smith a chance at least (who by the way Terrace Talk is very insulting about) I know things aren’t great at the minute but any additional support/ideas must be welcomed


                              But is MH cutting it here as a manager? not up to now he isn't or got the Roth U dna? not as player he hasn't.

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