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  • #31
    Originally posted by NorthWestCorner View Post
    Extraordinarily generous with a 6/10. I’d go for 3/10 at best. I struggle to see what’s going off with him. Either he was never very good, or his fitness has declined sharply since he joined us, or he simply is a bitter player who thinks himself better than RUFC.

    I also think a top 10 finish is wishful thinking. Even more so now Nombe will be missing for at least a few months and maybe more.

    The next 5 matches will set the tone.
    The next 5 matches will probably be inconsistent but hoping they are better than that.
    What would represent a decent return from the next 5 games ?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by caytonmiller View Post
      I thought hugill played ok last night. Not an eye catching performance but a steady 6/10. Don't forget he was playing like a sole striker due to mcguckin not being match fit.
      This team will be fine this season and can see a top 10 finish. . Not ideal for the glass half empty gang.
      Btw love the comments about 2 AVG teams. Always the same when we win. Haha.
      Agree regarding Hugill. Hold up play was fine, as a whole we need to do more to get players in and around him and the other striker.

      Regs expectations, I love your optimism Cayton, but I challenge where the goals come from for a top 10 finish. I think so far we've seen a bit of impotence in terms of chance creation, and with Nombe out of the side, fearing for the worst. Naturally a season can change with 2/3 additions that elevate the group, but I'm not convinced the budget is there to bring in the gamechangers. Happy to be proven incorrect.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by millersmadman View Post
        Agree regarding Hugill. Hold up play was fine, as a whole we need to do more to get players in and around him and the other striker.

        Regs expectations, I love your optimism Cayton, but I challenge where the goals come from for a top 10 finish. I think so far we've seen a bit of impotence in terms of chance creation, and with Nombe out of the side, fearing for the worst. Naturally a season can change with 2/3 additions that elevate the group, but I'm not convinced the budget is there to bring in the gamechangers. Happy to be proven incorrect.
        I thrive off optimism. Why worry about what we can't control. Nombe is out. Mcguckin is off the pace. So is etete and kayode...
        Ok we play 1 uptop hugill and Holmes/Martha behind him. Stick to a flat back 4 with Powell, McWilliams and yearwood in the middle. We always have hall and marvelous Kelly gore to chip in.
        We are overrun with midfielders. Imo pack it and use them.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Yak View Post
          The next 5 matches will probably be inconsistent but hoping they are better than that.
          What would represent a decent return from the next 5 games ?
          Good question. So a decent return would be 10 points - 2 point per game average. But I’ve just had a close look, and discarding the Burton postponement, we have some very tough fixtures.

          Cardiff, Wigan, Donny, Bolton, Exeter.

          I think we will do well to get 4 points from them. I’d happily be very wrong.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Yak View Post
            The next 5 matches will probably be inconsistent but hoping they are better than that.
            What would represent a decent return from the next 5 games ?
            Five is 'progress' from last season. We should manage six (two from the away games, four from the home), or possibly up to eight. Let's not lose sight of the fact that last season we didn't win a second game until the 9th fixture, and were 19th (level with 21st) at the point these next five had been played.

            Cardiff (0, any a bonus), Wigan (1), Donny (1 would be handy), Exeter (should hope for 3), Dons (1, but ideally 3)
            Last edited by UlleyMiller; 13-08-2025, 02:25 PM.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by caytonmiller View Post
              I thrive off optimism. Why worry about what we can't control. Nombe is out. Mcguckin is off the pace. So is etete and kayode...
              Ok we play 1 uptop hugill and Holmes/Martha behind him. Stick to a flat back 4 with Powell, McWilliams and yearwood in the middle. We always have hall and marvelous Kelly gore to chip in.
              We are overrun with midfielders. Imo pack it and use them.


              Yearwood on 2nd half last night Powell two I'd go with McWilliams is he another off the pace? Midfield 3. Only way same with McGuckin to get them match sharp is to play them. Need a big forward.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by RU66 View Post
                Yearwood on 2nd half last night Powell two I'd go with McWilliams is he another off the pace? Midfield 3. Only way same with McGuckin to get them match sharp is to play them. Need a big forward.
                McWilliams first game last night and still running when he came off. Agree with mcguckin but is he good enough is the question. Your magic eye thinks he is. Seasoned home and away pros like yak say no .

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by NorthWestCorner View Post
                  Good question. So a decent return would be 10 points - 2 point per game average. But I’ve just had a close look, and discarding the Burton postponement, we have some very tough fixtures.

                  Cardiff, Wigan, Donny, Bolton, Exeter.

                  I think we will do well to get 4 points from them. I’d happily be very wrong.
                  2 points a game is top 6 form
                  Not a good return if you think we are getting promoted but you think we're doomed so 4 point would be a great return.
                  Btw see port vale won again last night

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                  • #39
                    I think once McWilliams got a few games under his belt last season he hit a run of his form and was a big miss when he got injured again. I'd like to see him in attacking midfield role. And my eye is magic.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Yak View Post
                      Mcgukin isn?t good enough you are just an idiot and he?s your latest fad
                      Martha will be class along with some of the other new boys. Holmes had impact.
                      You need sectioning for your own safety and safety to others.

                      Not quite sure what the hatred is for?H e has a point.As far as i remember wingers are supposed to beat a man and put a cross in.In a game and a half, Martha has done neither, am i wrong?Hughill isnt everybodys favourite, but he wont score without service,neither will Nombe.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by shshsh22 View Post
                        Not quite sure what the hatred is for?H e has a point.As far as i remember wingers are supposed to beat a man and put a cross in.In a game and a half, Martha has done neither, am i wrong?Hughill isnt everybodys favourite, but he wont score without service,neither will Nombe.


                        Thanks do they watch a game on here or go for something else? Wide players go on the outside to get a cross in. Martha hasn't to my knowledge. Cut inside wide players are 10 a penny!

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by caytonmiller View Post
                          2 points a game is top 6 form
                          Not a good return if you think we are getting promoted but you think we're doomed so 4 point would be a great return.
                          Btw see port vale won again last night
                          Not really sure what you are on about to be honest. 10 point is a decent return and yes that would be promotion/playoff form. 4 points really would not be a great return, unless of course your ambitions are rock bottom l, and you are prepared to doff your cap at whatever the Chairman throws your way.

                          Yes, good result for Port Vale. They are surpassing expectations. Just shows what a bit of ambition can do.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by shshsh22 View Post
                            Not quite sure what the hatred is for?H e has a point.As far as i remember wingers are supposed to beat a man and put a cross in.In a game and a half, Martha has done neither, am i wrong?Hughill isnt everybodys favourite, but he wont score without service,neither will Nombe.
                            Hatred 🤣🤣🤣 Jees another sensitive soul.
                            He doesn’t have a point. He doesn’t want a point he’s only interested in talking bollax.
                            As far Martha I thought he had a good game. But I was there he’s just gonna keep peddling the same bollax.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by NorthWestCorner View Post
                              Not really sure what you are on about to be honest. 10 point is a decent return and yes that would be promotion/playoff form. 4 points really would not be a great return, unless of course your ambitions are rock bottom l, and you are prepared to doff your cap at whatever the Chairman throws your way.

                              Yes, good result for Port Vale. They are surpassing expectations. Just shows what a bit of ambition can do.
                              Think you know exactly what I said.
                              You think we will struggle so you must accept 4 point is what you are expecting so if your expecting 4 points then it must be a good return.
                              If you expect 4 and we get 2 then that's a poor return.
                              If you expect 4 and we get 6 then that's a great return.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by caytonmiller View Post
                                Think you know exactly what I said.
                                You think we will struggle so you must accept 4 point is what you are expecting so if your expecting 4 points then it must be a good return.
                                If you expect 4 and we get 2 then that's a poor return.
                                If you expect 4 and we get 6 then that's a great return.
                                That?s not the logic I follow. I?m expecting 4 points because we are ****e. I?m not thinking that is a good return. I?m thinking that is what we will get. Hope that helps?

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