MillersMad Match Thread...Millers v Port Vale.

[Brin]

Don't care how many mathematical points are still available, get your maps out and start planning for life in League 2.


TONIGHT FOR ME WE WENT DOWN!

[ragingpup]

Let's see who can do the best 'dejected' pose. 6.7 from Sam

[Brin]

Great idea bringing clarke in, they obviously don?t like him either. Instead of sacking managers, perhaps we should concentrate on players.

Even if we went down with Hammy he may well have learned a lot of lessons from his poor formations and looked to plan to change things next season but for christ sake, how bad have we suffered through injuries this season. That for me has cost us more than anything.

[sawmiller]

Don't care how many mathematical points are still available, get your maps out and start planning for life in League 2.


TONIGHT FOR ME WE WENT DOWN!

The writing on the wall has been there for quite a while now - not if, just when. A quantum change in so many things needed to avoid doing another S****horpe

Laughing stock of a club

[mygiddypant]

I've just heard from my contact in the WH that Trump is going to bomb NYS to show Starmer a lesson!

This must mean the season is cancelled!

Praise be to the Lord!

[Derbymiller]

shambles total shambles.
Port vale are a club that have earned a lot of money in the FA cup, you know the competition that people say is worthless, and now they are fighting to not finish bottom and it shows. they aren't a good team but they are better than us and it wouldn't surprise me if we end up bottom of the league, no goals in the team, no effort, no pride nothing. Not going saturday now going to a family do instead.

[Old_time_miller]

Even if we went down with Hammy he may well have learned a lot of lessons from his poor formations and looked to plan to change things next season but for christ sake, how bad have we suffered through injuries this season. That for me has cost us more than anything.

Well, if we were going to change it should have been before the january window?..but then we would have not beat exeter 4-0 with hamshaw as manager.
Injuries to players who were any good, without a doubt.

[GlennMiller]

Does anyone want my season ticket - 10 quid. At a push, I'll give you 15!

[Stansmate]

Can?t blame Clarke - he must be psssd off seeing how poor the players are.

Out of the whole squad including the sick notes not even a handful of talent.

It?s been a complete balls up even before a ball was kicked last August.

No idea where it?s all going other than Confetence maybe !!!

[Old_time_miller]

Sacking hamshaw and bringing in clarke has made not difference, only wasted yet money.

[Derbymiller]

Even if we went down with Hammy he may well have learned a lot of lessons from his poor formations and looked to plan to change things next season but for christ sake, how bad have we suffered through injuries this season. That for me has cost us more than anything.

We have struggled with injuries for a few years now, this is the worse but this is not a one season problem. As stated previously since 2000 the level and type of muscle injuries particularly hamstring have risen significantly and even more so since 2020, therefore something has changed. The clubs that act on that and adapt the way players are assessed during recruitment, the way they are trained, looked after from a health and fitness perspective are likely to cope with the change better than others. Clubs with big squads can deal with it better especially if they have a quality youth system, we are not in that group even at l1 level we are not in that group. The first 48 hours of a hamstring injury are crucial, that is well documented in medical research anyone can read that, so when we leave them two days to assess them, when we let them walk around the pitch after a game when they have come off due to a hamstring, perhaps the way we manage our assets might have contributed to the level of our issues. As with so much at RUFC huge changes are needed in the way playing assets are sourced and treated for us not to be having the same conversations again next season.

[Old_time_miller]

We have struggled with injuries for a few years now, this is the worse but this is not a one season problem. As stated previously since 2000 the level and type of muscle injuries particularly hamstring have risen significantly and even more so since 2020, therefore something has changed. The clubs that act on that and adapt the way players are assessed during recruitment, the way they are trained, looked after from a health and fitness perspective are likely to cope with the change better than others. Clubs with big squads can deal with it better especially if they have a quality youth system, we are not in that group even at l1 level we are not in that group. The first 48 hours of a hamstring injury are crucial, that is well documented in medical research anyone can read that, so when we leave them two days to assess them, when we let them walk around the pitch after a game when they have come off due to a hamstring, perhaps the way we manage our assets might have contributed to the level of our issues. As with so much at RUFC huge changes are needed in the way playing assets are sourced and treated for us not to be having the same conversations again next season.

Good point. So is the fact the club have wilfully neglected many things, including medical. Look no further.

And please, no one say hamshaw signed off on the medical, he worked under warne and would not have. It was forced on him. Cut backs.

[Heliosphan78]

Sacking hamshaw and bringing in clarke has made not difference, only wasted yet money.

But we got rid of a completely inept manager who signed 19 players. On top of which, he gave contracts to non league players like Kayode, Holmes and McGuckin. That's two teams of eleven. I don't care what budget he had, there's scope there to put a team together, and with the right tactics, capable of competing. He failed miserably. Aside from that, we've wrecked players to the point where we've seen double digit levels of injuries on a regular basis. And THIS is the outcome.

LC may or may not make a difference but blind faith in Hamshaw would have been essentially signing up to another season of dross, but this time in L2.

[Old_time_miller]

But we got rid of a completely inept manager who signed 19 players. On top of which, he gave contracts to non league players like Kayode, Holmes and McGuckin. That's two teams of eleven. I don't care what budget he had, there's scope there to put a team together, and with the right tactics, capable of competing. He failed miserably. Aside from that, we've wrecked players to the point where we've seen double digit levels of injuries on a regular basis. And THIS is the outcome.

LC may or may not make a difference but blind faith in Hamshaw would have been essentially signing up to another season of dross, but this time in L2.

Take points.
But I never had blind faith. You have to look at the bigger picture. Well, had it not have been for the injuries, which is the medical staff needs to put hands up for, then there would have been more games like the win at exeter, steam rollering Plymouth.

Now, it cannot have all been bad. In my view we thought we were down, they did and just rolled the dice again. It’s players and injuries.

If we were doomed to go down, changing manager was pointless, becasue the two people who knew the players just may have got some points.
Then if not, then a fresh manager upon relegation. But, it is a crucial but, the issue is playing out, which it is, players and injuries in many ways. Lack of money also. Look at what we have spent, peanuts.

[sawmiller]

Yet Lincoln have less to spend than us, and…..