O/T Covid Vaccine mRNA

[ragingpup]

My issue has always been the mNRA part of the vaccine. The conflict of interest concerns me greatly. In both reports Pfizer and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation have both proffited in the Billions in the production of the vaccines. Should the conflict of interest make these reports valid? The Google links point directly at the WHO that is massively funded by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation puts that in direct conflict with the reports..

And I've yet to see a stude about the effect that the vaccine has had on any of these figures.

It concerns me that the people, the governments, the authorities that we grew up believing were doing good have been influenced from the outside. By un-elected wealthy elites that are making Billions of dollars, pounds or whatever currency out of this on going situation.

Is this just a money making scheme or is it much more synister? Have the elites like Bill Gates and the WEF really got into a position where they can reduce the worlds population as they've been openly saying?

These are questions. And I wouldn't have believed them and dismissed out of hand as a conspiricy when I walked freely into the clinic for my jabs! I won't do it again because of the doubts around what these people have been openly saying. Unfortunately the main stream media is owned by them so there is a restriction on whatever they say or mainly don't say.

I understand what your saying and it is inevitable that your own awful experience is a major factor in how you look at this. I'm sure I'd prob feel the same.

I don't dispute also that there are very big invisible fingers in all kinds of public affairs where bigg money is involved, and an awful lot of shadiness. As I said, we should look at research produced in medical science witha healthy scepticism. However, in the 2nd report, I can't see anything in the report's concusions or assertions that doesn't seem to make good sense to me as to why the numbers of excess deaths are so high. Aren't you dismissing the report(s), much of which is co=produced by medical people without declared interests wholesale without even really engaging in what they are trying to tell us? The fact that a hugely reputable medical journal has published the reports when it would have so much to lose if they were found to be in bed a huge and let's face it, murderous of millions, conspiracy. I personally don't buy that, the report looks cogent and valid.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

Without the involvement of money and those that want to risk putting money into medical research we would still be living in caves.

[frogmiller]

I understand what your saying and it is inevitable that your own awful experience is a major factor in how you look at this. I'm sure I'd prob feel the same.

I don't dispute also that there are very big invisible fingers in all kinds of public affairs where bigg money is involved, and an awful lot of shadiness. As I said, we should look at research produced in medical science witha healthy scepticism. However, in the 2nd report, I can't see anything in the report's concusions or assertions that doesn't seem to make good sense to me as to why the numbers of excess deaths are so high. Aren't you dismissing the report(s), much of which is co=produced by medical people without declared interests wholesale without even really engaging in what they are trying to tell us? The fact that a hugely reputable medical journal has published the reports when it would have so much to lose if they were found to be in bed a huge and let's face it, murderous of millions, conspiracy. I personally don't buy that, the report looks cogent and valid.

I believe that for the sake of transparency that no pharmaceutical companies should be part of any research into reports other than providing evidence. It’s like having a referee from the home town or state and Lyle giving evidence that sugar doesn’t cause health problems, benson and hedges saying that nicotine does harm.

I honestly think that it’s been horrendous that so much money has been taken from the public purses around the world and used to buy something that has such a huge price.

I truly want some independent studies into whether the vaccines are causing any of the problems. They ate not even included in probable causes of anything. Especially when the funding for the reports comes from pharmaceutical industry or the WHO or Gates.

It’s not unreasonable to ask for that. I don’t mind being wrong but there is far too much doubt.

[frogmiller]

Without the involvement of money and those that want to risk putting money into medical research we would still be living in caves.

The money for these vaccines came from tax payers and the profits go to pharma. They pharma have immunity from prosecution and any burden falls back onto the taxpayers

[frogmiller]

This Ladapo is interesting

https://x.com/thechiefnerd/status/1739807453187850370?s=42&t=V3MA7CRmlcvxGrPcIOixGQ

[rileyev.the.third]

Was anyone held down and given the jab against their will?

No but I was told if I didn't have the vaccine I would lose my job, which frankly I couldn't afford to do. So technically I was forced, yes.

Certainly won't be having anymore that's for sure. Covid was an international con trick of the highest order. The worse is yet to come though. Covid was just the start, over the next five years or so, the World is going to be a horrible place to be for the very vast majority.

Anyway Crash, I'm surprised you've had 5 vaccinations, as I remember you were one of the loudest shouters on here of "Its only Flu ffs"

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

I see Kate Garraway’s husband Derek Draper died today after a long illness

Not vaccinated against Covid

[frogmiller]

I see Kate Garraway’s husband Derek Draper died today after a long illness

Not vaccinated against Covid

That is sad. She has done a lot for long covid sufferers in bringing it to the attention of the masses.

[frogmiller]

It could be that the contracts to buy the Covid vaccines and other drugs relating to Covid run until 2027 even though Covid 19 is no longer a threat to life as it was.

https://x.com/wolsned/status/1743670714970804635?s=42&t=V3MA7CRmlcvxGrPcIOixGQ

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

It could be that the contracts to buy the Covid vaccines and other drugs relating to Covid run until 2027 even though Covid 19 is no longer a threat to life as it was.

https://x.com/wolsned/status/1743670...lcvxGrPcIOixGQ

Until covid 24 surfaces

It’s a battle without end and the virus doesn’t respect contract lengths

[frogmiller]

Until covid 24 surfaces

It’s a battle without end and the virus doesn’t respect contract lengths

The history of all Covid has never ever re-emerged.

The last major pandemic was traced back to a field in France. That was over 100 years ago. It didn’t re-emerge.
There’s one major difference however that should be alarming but is never spoke about and that is the origin of this Covid 19.
Why have they not traced the source? They’ve tested over 800 animals in china and not one was found to be the source.

Does it not worry you?

[Brin]

No but I was told if I didn't have the vaccine I would lose my job, which frankly I couldn't afford to do. So technically I was forced, yes.

Certainly won't be having anymore that's for sure. Covid was an international con trick of the highest order. The worse is yet to come though. Covid was just the start, over the next five years or so, the World is going to be a horrible place to be for the very vast majority.

Anyway Crash, I'm surprised you've had 5 vaccinations, as I remember you were one of the loudest shouters on here of "Its only Flu ffs"

[frogmiller]

I haven’t seen this film! Any good?

https://x.com/warclandestine/status/1743867439207592142?s=42&t=V3MA7CRmlcvxGrPcIOixGQ

[frogmiller]

😂😂😂

https://x.com/cartlanddavid/status/1743918013944902117?s=42&t=V3MA7CRmlcvxGrPcIOixGQ

[frogmiller]

The millers mad kangaroo court in session again..

But yet the questions mount and the whistleblowers start appearing

Big Pharma Executive Blows Whistle: ‘COVID Vaccines Are Designed To Kill Billions’

COVID-19 mRNA vaccines were deliberately designed to be ineffective and lethal, according to bombshell testimony by pharmaceutical executive Alexandra “Sasha” Latypova.

According to Latypova, the Department of Defense (DoD) had “very clear intent to harm” by executing a “mass genocide of Americans.”

Under the DoD’s control and direction, drug manufacturers like Pfizer, Moderna, and Janssen started mass-producing the shots for Operation Warp Speed – long before the first cases of Covid even appeared, it turns out. These “figurehead” organizations, Latypova insists, were just obeying the DoD’s orders.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/moderna-clinical-trials-flawed-fda-pharma-executive-alexandra-latypova-rfk-jr-podcast/