O/T net zero=net loss

[great_fire]

Price cap is a scam to let the big companies set high prices and keep smaller competitors out.

[KerrAvon]

Energy bills going up on average by ?110 p.a..We were told bills would come down by ?300 !!! Milliband is killing this country.Domestic users are really struggling and businesses are folding up due to these crazy green tax penalties.Why are we the only country having to pay these astronomical prices??????????????

This article may help you:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crkep1vx3mro

The bottom line is that we are paying the price for spending decades believing that we could rely on cheap fossil fuels forever and failing to invest in our futures.

[millersrus]

Energy bills going up on average by ?110 p.a..We were told bills would come down by ?300 !!! Milliband is killing this country.Domestic users are really struggling and businesses are folding up due to these crazy green tax penalties.Why are we the only country having to pay these astronomical prices??????????????

I decided to fix my tariff last November.
Fixed rate was lower than what I was currently paying so thought why not.
On news today they said there are still some fixed rate deals available.

[UlleyMiller]

Price cap is a scam to let the big companies set high prices and keep smaller competitors out.

Utilities in general represent no real upside to the public since we opted to farm them out.

Consumers have little choice on electricity, even worse for gas, and worse still for water. Competition is practically zero. The infrastructure is poor, failing, and often largely ignored. Investment in solar, wind and tidal has amounted to token gestures over the years, and often the commercial frameworks have been poor.

Basic power, heat, and water provision shouldn't even need to be a political issue. We all need these things, and if there is no competition it makes more sense to provide the domestic end without charge and tax accordingly. This stops it hitting the poorest the most, removes the politics, and makes the whole thing more efficient. We need to stop these antiquated views that in-housing certain things is somehow a nod to the far left - if there's no free market, people are being ripped off under a false offer.

[sawmiller]

Utilities in general represent no real upside to the public since we opted to farm them out.

Consumers have little choice on electricity, even worse for gas, and worse still for water. Competition is practically zero. The infrastructure is poor, failing, and often largely ignored. Investment in solar, wind and tidal has amounted to token gestures over the years, and often the commercial frameworks have been poor.

Basic power, heat, and water provision shouldn't even need to be a political issue. We all need these things, and if there is no competition it makes more sense to provide the domestic end without charge and tax accordingly. This stops it hitting the poorest the most, removes the politics, and makes the whole thing more efficient. We need to stop these antiquated views that in-housing certain things is somehow a nod to the far left - if there's no free market, people are being ripped off under a false offer.

Stop talking sense

Mr Tice had solar panels retro fitted to all of his buildings and then boasted about how much money that would save him - not bad for somebody who publicly speaks against it

[great_fire]

Utilities in general represent no real upside to the public since we opted to farm them out.

Consumers have little choice on electricity, even worse for gas, and worse still for water. Competition is practically zero. The infrastructure is poor, failing, and often largely ignored. Investment in solar, wind and tidal has amounted to token gestures over the years, and often the commercial frameworks have been poor.

But there used to be competition and you could shop around for lower prices. Martin Lewis made a career out of it.

[MillerBill]

This could turn out to be the biggest con of the century.For the sake of all of us, I hope the Govt. admit this is a massive mistake and return to the oil and gas that we can tap into that we own.NOT STUPIDLY IMPORTING THIS AT GREAT COST.

[frogmiller]

The new net zero back up generator at Heathrow airport has failed.
Can?t belief they took out the diesel generators they have used as back up for year and replaced it with a biomass one! In principal it sounds great but it was designed to work alongside an already functioning system.

I can tell you all now that every single hospital in the country has diesel back up systems that automatically kick in when there is a power loss. They are the same generators that are used on tankers and military bases.

Imagine one of those not kicking in or has been replaced by something else like biomass!

[MillerBill]

Net Zero = MASSIVE Net loss.

[KerrAvon]

What a bizarre post.

We have just been reminded - once again - how vulnerable our economy is to spikes in the cost of fossil fuels.

[howdydoo]

What a bizarre post.

We have just been reminded - once again - how vulnerable our economy is to spikes in the cost of fossil fuels.

If only we had our own reserve of fossil fuel. What a difference that could make.

[KerrAvon]

We do, Howdy. The UK is currently 25th in the world for oil production and around 20th for gas production. That doesn’t help, however, because the prices of those commodities are set by a worldwide market.

There are dregs left in hard and ludicrously expensive to reach locations in UK waters, but not in quantities that would noticeably shift the world price, even if we took the years that it would take to exploit them.

But you are probably right in an alternative imaginary universe in which it makes sense to extend the reliance of the UK upon finite resources with highly volatile prices.

[MillerBill]

What a bizarre post.

We have just been reminded - once again - how vulnerable our economy is to spikes in the cost of fossil fuels.

What is so bizarre,is that we are importing oil from Norway, who are are drilling in the same North Sea,where this stupid govt.have stopped us using the reserves that are our own.Absolute bonkers!!!!!!

[Old_time_miller]

There is no easy answer.

[avondalemiller]

Should have had a Sovereign Wealth fund set up years ago, Norway & Gulf countries. We could have set our own prices up and not under the world prices.