OT Border Control State of Emergency

[Back of the net]

https://x.com/basil_tgmd/status/1955717057586078195?s=46&t=_H-PJT_Aa5CJQSL-fc1GEg

Unbelievable the police, lawyers, politicians are not on our side.

[Stovicmiller]

Seen that video , that’s what we are letting into the country. Refugees welcome here we’ll all those that say that then they should sponsor one in their own home but when they are asked the question all they say is they haven’t the room.

[ragingpup]

To start with give em **** all when they get here . Definitely not nice warm hotels with three meals a day , clothes phones , discounted tickets for rothervalley dinghy and sailing trips , I did hear that they reached the other side of the lake and tried to claim asylum again . It was in a national newspaper about Rotherham council giving discounts so don?’t know if that?’s true. Give em cardboard to sleep under like our homeless.

Rotherham council allow people "living in Rotherham under a government approved refugee, resettlement or asylum seeker programme" to apply for a Rothercard that gets them a discount for services at Rother Valley Park. This is along with other locals on low incomes and a range of benefits. I think that the main focus here is to make the scheme inclusive to people granted refugee status but still setting up their lives in the area on low incomes so that they can pay to use the services therby generating income for the park and council.

I've read the Sun/Express reports on this and whilst it is factually correct that people arriving illegally and NOT yet had their claim processed and therefore can access this scheme, it should be said that boat hire is ?13 an hour and AS in this position only gets ?9.95 an hour so I am sure that only genuine refugees setting up to work but on low incomes would actually be accessing this offer.

I guess that RMBC could be clearer in saying words to the effect of 'you are eligible only if you have been granted refugee status or waiting for your claim to be processed by legal routes' but I would imagine that would be an additional prohibitave checking ball ache for the schemes administrators, who are more aware that people awaiting for their claim to be processed will not be able to afford to sail a boat in a park for an hour anyway*

*I accept that many people will argue that asylum seekers are given plenty enough money by the state to comfortably afford a boat, and will arrive at the park in a mercedez benz (gifted by state) and undertake criminal activities whilst on their boats using mobile phones (gifted by the state) but I can only reply as usual that such arguments will be due to it's proposor's inability to tell a refugee from an asylum seeker, anyone that looks brown or black from an asylum seeker or has been told all about it from their cousin Bob.

[KerrAvon]

https://x.com/basil_tgmd/status/1955...a5CJQSL-fc1GEg

Unbelievable the police, lawyers, politicians are not on our side.

What offence do you think he should have been arrested for?

[Stovicmiller]

What offence do you think he should have been arrested for?

you know the dinghy boy shouldn’t have walked in the house and you know it’s wrong . You just cannot help yourself. You’re just a smart prick . By the way I wouldn’t has bothered calling the police I would have shown him the error of his ways.

[KerrAvon]

you know the dinghy boy shouldn’t have walked in the house and you know it’s wrong . You just cannot help yourself. You’re just a smart prick . By the way I wouldn’t has bothered calling the police I would have shown him the error of his ways.

What offence do you think he committed?

[millersrus]

What offence do you think he committed?

Unlawful entry into a property, without consent.

[KerrAvon]

That is not a criminal offence in English law.

That neatly illustrates the problem. The police can't just arrest someone just because an angry mob wants them to. It would get expensive for them if they did.

From the clip, it is also unclear whether there houseowner actually wanted police action.

[Back of the net]

Unlawful entry into a property, without consent.

We have to wait till he rapes someone. Then his identity will get hidden. He will get off with a light sentence if any then we will get told white people are bad too and we’re all right wing.
It’s different laws now for illegals.
Keep up.

[KerrAvon]

It is a well established principle of English law that there has to be reasonable grounds to suspect guilt before you can be arrested, that there has to be a realistic prospect of conviction before you can be prosecuted and that there a court has to be satisfied so as to be sure of guilt before it can convict someone.

Would you want it any other way?

Being the subject of fear p0rn on Twitter doesn't satisfy any of the conditions set out above.

[great_fire]

That is not a criminal offence in English law.

That neatly illustrates the problem. The police can't just arrest someone just because an angry mob wants them to. It would get expensive for them if they did.

From the clip, it is also unclear whether there houseowner actually wanted police action.

They can arrest people for cat-calling, which also isn't a crime.

They also record "non-crime hate incidents".

[KerrAvon]

They can arrest people for cat-calling, which also isn't a crime.

They also record "non-crime hate incidents".

What do you mean by cat calling?

[Stovicmiller]

What offence do you think he committed?

what about aggravated trespass, what bout the moral offence of not going into a women’s house without consent.

[KerrAvon]

Aggravated trespass has no application. In simple terms it is committed when a person trespasses with the intention of obstructing a lawful activity being undertaken there.

It was intended for the likes of hunt saboteurs and peace protestor.

There is no such thing as a moral offence.

[Stovicmiller]

Aggravated trespass has no application. In simple terms it is committed when a person trespasses with the intention of obstructing a lawful activity being undertaken there.

It was intended for the likes of hunt saboteurs and peace protestor.

There is no such thing as a moral offence.

wow you?re right there isn?t such a thing as a moral offence.