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  • Originally posted by Scum-Triumphant View Post
    Should we (the taxpayer) pay to evacuate tax dodging British immigrants in the Middle East to bring them back to the UK or should they pay for it themselves?
    leave them there .

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    • Shunta gone int furst place - awlus a risk of aggro art theer

      On the boat arrivals - weve possibly already got an anti British army !!

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      • Originally posted by Scum-Triumphant View Post
        Should we (the taxpayer) pay to evacuate tax dodging British immigrants in the Middle East to bring them back to the UK or should they pay for it themselves?
        Is that what the British government are doing?

        If I had to be evacuated from France would I have pay even if I have been dodging HMRC for years.

        I have paid taxes in France though.

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        • Originally posted by frogmiller View Post
          Is that what the British government are doing?

          If I had to be evacuated from France would I have pay even if I have been dodging HMRC for years.

          I have paid taxes in France though.
          With Trump's approach to diplomacy and the rule of law, you may well get to find out in the coming weeks.

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          • Originally posted by UlleyMiller View Post
            With Trump's approach to diplomacy and the rule of law, you may well get to find out in the coming weeks.
            What rule of law? The International rule of law? The same laws that saw Bush and Blair send thousands of our troops into an illegal war? The Law that allows the milking lawyers make millions from court cases that lead to no prosecutions?

            I would like to see the law that stopped Britain sending equipment to protect the armed forces.

            I have spoken about Iran on another post but there is no doubt that the extermination of the Islamic leaders in Iran and the decaputation of funds to their armies of terrorist is a fantastic thing in my eyes! If the deplomacy of Trump stops this then I am for it.

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            • Originally posted by frogmiller View Post
              What rule of law? The International rule of law? The same laws that saw Bush and Blair send thousands of our troops into an illegal war? The Law that allows the milking lawyers make millions from court cases that lead to no prosecutions?

              I would like to see the law that stopped Britain sending equipment to protect the armed forces.

              I have spoken about Iran on another post but there is no doubt that the extermination of the Islamic leaders in Iran and the decaputation of funds to their armies of terrorist is a fantastic thing in my eyes! If the deplomacy of Trump stops this then I am for it.
              A game of 'this tyrant is better than that tyrant' will always remain a game about tyrants. 6,000 years of civilisation and we're still weighing up which is the better regime to f*** us over like there is a genuinely sensible answer.

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              • Originally posted by UlleyMiller View Post
                A game of 'this tyrant is better than that tyrant' will always remain a game about tyrants. 6,000 years of civilisation and we're still weighing up which is the better regime to f*** us over like there is a genuinely sensible answer.
                Your obvious dislike for Trump who has not as far as I am aware sent troops into the streets to kill its own citizens is somehow being compaired to a regime that has been doing this for years.

                I fully understand that the Americans are against communism and will do whatever it can to overthrow another nations government. They have been doing it for years but that is a long succession of American presidents. What makes Trump any different to all of those presidents that have passed before him?

                You have given no rational reason for your argument.

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                • Originally posted by frogmiller View Post
                  Your obvious dislike for Trump who has not as far as I am aware sent troops into the streets to kill its own citizens is somehow being compaired to a regime that has been doing this for years.

                  I fully understand that the Americans are against communism and will do whatever it can to overthrow another nations government. They have been doing it for years but that is a long succession of American presidents. What makes Trump any different to all of those presidents that have passed before him?

                  You have given no rational reason for your argument.
                  I'm not going to give a rational argument for what you're suggesting my argument is, because that's a mess of a concept.

                  My point is that Trump, like those he's 'removing', is just another example of a man who isn't suited to overseeing a role he's in. Like countless others before him, and like countless others around the world, he's just a politically inept, morally bankrupt, self-serving egomaniac. Three things will always be a waste of time:
                  1) Convincing a person to change their mind online.
                  2) Comparing morally bankrupt, self-serving egomaniacs to establish who is better/worse (which was the argument I did put forward).
                  3) Whataboutery.

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                  • Meanwhile our absolutely clueless,corrupt government have proposed to pay failed asylum seekers £40,000 tax free, to leave the country.WOW.what an incentive to get over the channel and make a guaranteed profit.Calais will get even more busier with illegal migrants wanting to come over to take advantage of this offer. Another kick in the teeth for us taxpayers !!!!!

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                    • Outrageous this - what planet are labour on ? Completeley lost the plot and a real insult to people of Britain

                      Surely to god this cant really happen !!

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                      • Originally posted by Stansmate View Post
                        Outrageous this - what planet are labour on ? Completeley lost the plot and a real insult to people of Britain

                        Surely to god this cant really happen !!
                        Britain is run by fill your boots lawyers that are only happy to be seen in a good light by their peers and don?t give a damn about the rest of the plebs!

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                        • Originally posted by MillerBill View Post
                          Meanwhile our absolutely clueless,corrupt government have proposed to pay failed asylum seekers £40,000 tax free, to leave the country.WOW.what an incentive to get over the channel and make a guaranteed profit.Calais will get even more busier with illegal migrants wanting to come over to take advantage of this offer. Another kick in the teeth for us taxpayers !!!!!
                          I can't get my head around this idiotic solution to the channel crossing problem .

                          If ever I saw a policy that truly admits that many who cross the channel have no right to do so then this is it .

                          For more years than i care to remember we've been fed tales of escaping conflicts , persecution , same *** relationships and so forth , I don't for one minute believe some of this isn't in play and we do have a duty to accept migrants fleeing their country's under such circumstances .

                          However those numbers were never as high as the numbers who came over and continued to come over escaping real hardship and persecution , not on your nelly .

                          So the answer to getting played by the usual human rights lawyers is to offer their clients 40k and play us even more , the system is so flawed and badly managed you'd imagine it's possible to pull this off several times with family members working together .

                          I absolutely despair at our previous government's and present ones inability at any time to prevent human rights lawyers running rings around them and creating an industry out of this .

                          I don't want to see a Reform government but you dont need to be a genius to see why that may possibly happen .

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                          • Originally posted by animallittle3 View Post
                            I can't get my head around this idiotic solution to the channel crossing problem .

                            If ever I saw a policy that truly admits that many who cross the channel have no right to do so then this is it .

                            For more years than i care to remember we've been fed tales of escaping conflicts , persecution , same *** relationships and so forth , I don't for one minute believe some of this isn't in play and we do have a duty to accept migrants fleeing their country's under such circumstances .

                            However those numbers were never as high as the numbers who came over and continued to come over escaping real hardship and persecution , not on your nelly .

                            So the answer to getting played by the usual human rights lawyers is to offer their clients 40k and play us even more , the system is so flawed and badly managed you'd imagine it's possible to pull this off several times with family members working together .

                            I absolutely despair at our previous government's and present ones inability at any time to prevent human rights lawyers running rings around them and creating an industry out of this .

                            I don't want to see a Reform government but you dont need to be a genius to see why that may possibly happen .
                            Legally the lawyers will make a fortune arguing this for ****ing years!

                            These ****s have no shame!

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                            • Idiots leading Britain with no mandate in terms of opinion from its popoulation !

                              Really think - riots and deep deep ****e on its way !!

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                              • Hundreds coming over today and what has this government done? Given more taxpayers' money to the French.Absolute madness,they don't want to stop these illegal migrants leaving their shores,they want to get rid.We are a global laughing stock !!!!!!!!!!

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